cheleby

zdravo Prijatelj, I wasnt able to write last 2 weeks.I didnt read the whole book indeed. I skimmed the The Noels Malcolm book and Alija ?zetbegovic's Inescapable Questions after Bagus had told me that I should go library and read Bosna History. :) Our library has Noel Malcolms,?zetbegovics, Richard Hoolbrokes and various Turkish writers about Bosna. My idea about that book is Catholic biased and against Tito.
You are right about womens situation in West, but in the East Women is regarded as second class citizen. In Arabic countries even women are not treated as they are citizens, no write to vote, no driving license, no right to divorce.
Attaturk is wrong spelling, Atat?rk or Ataturk is accurate.full name is Mustafa Kemal Atat?rk.Atat?rk is our nations leader like Izetbegovic of Bosna. I am a kemalist, who follows Ataturks path, derived from name Kemal of Atat?rk.Actually Atat?rks path is not westernization, modernisation or democratisation, are the the goals.Kemalism has six significant fetaures, Republicism (against kingdom), Public Democracy (against Oligarchy), Secularism (against Fundemantalism),State Entersprises beyond Private sector ( a kind of mixed Economy), Patriotism and National Sovereignity, and Reformism. Owing the Atat?rk reforms, we are moving towards to European Union.Women can vote and be elected since 1934, contrast to other Middle Eastern states.Women have broadest rights in middle East, even than Israel.Turkey is 1 of 2 democracies in the Middle East, other Israel.
Current situation in Turkey, kemalism is losing power against Natioalism and Islamism.Islamist party AKP( Justice and Development party) came to power in 2002.so being a Kemalist is hard job in Turkey nowadays.

celestine

hey dude, i didnt know about malcolms writing slant! we all know about the subjugation of women in islam. but the rate of exorbitant rape in teh western world of women is worse. just not as hyped up as the west wants.
whats your opinion on attaturks path that he has taken turkey towards the west?

cheleby

I have never been in Bosnia but I interested in Bosnian culture and history. The relations between Bosnia and Turkey are special.Maybe that is the reason why I joined Bosna village.
I was thinking that Bosnians hate Yugoslavijas communist past and Tito, so observations of Celestine surpsrised me. Thats good to hear that a muslim majority nation favores egalitarianism. It is fact that Turkey and Arabic countries are imitating monopoly capitalism or unfair economic systems of western countries. It is good to hear from Bosna.
Noel Malcolms writing is biased. We understand that he hates Tito from that book. He is favor of Katholic Croatians.
I appreciate the womans role in Bosnian society.Women have many rights like another European countries. Unfortunately other Muslims are subjugating women.

cheleby

I mean states as an entities like Germans divisions Bauera, Saxonia. I dont mean that they are different countries.

Bagus

This Wikipedia info is quite right except for the first sentence.

There are not TWO states in Bosnia, but two entities that 'have some attributes' of states, but in finality cannot secede from the country of Bosnia and Herzegovina. They are integral part of the country.

as for Pady Ashdown, he is de-facto Ruler of the Country (without right to affect/change the constitution)l his salary is about 30 thousand EUROs per month (paid by the EU). :(

cheleby

I hope I am not all alone in this village :)
Is there anyone who will check the reality of these information. I think Bosnia is not an independent and sovereign country. There should be red tapes procedures in this complicated management. Why Bosniaks and Crotians behave as they are united? Do they have good relation?