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Allah VS GOD


Is there any differnce between saying Allah or God??? Some says Allah is unique and should only be called ALLAH. where as God is just a word used for different meanings.

what do you think about it?????
 

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Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 7:30pm)
very interesting JE but i to wil comment like FON please cant people explain without it becoming a sermon

ram77 i understand what u are saying - i think i was told the same. ALLAH is a one where as gods can be many as is khuda
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 4:44pm)
Khuda is an urdu word which 'means' God.

Label ----> reference ---> Object

If the capacity of Muslims has reached such a level that speaking in another language other than Arabic leaves a person unable to appreciate the meaning of certain words, then we really have returned to the days of ignorance.

The reference to 96:1 in the Quran is a classic abuse of interpreting the Quran. The context of the verse has no reference to 'The name of the Lord' rather it was the first verse revealed to the Prophet. The reference wasn't to any name of God. To use this reference to justify using the word Allah, is like taking any sentance in any language fromany paragraph and readimg it out of context.
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 9:34am)
Zechariah prophesied: "And the Lord shall be king over all the earth, in that day there shall be one Lord, and his name one." (Zech. 14:9)

Isaiah prophesied: "And in that day shall you say, Praise the Lord, call upon His name." (Isaiah 12:4)

David prophesied: "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" (Psalms 118:26).

This is also repeated in the Gospels (Matt. 21:9, etc.), and was fulfilled by the Holy Prophet Muhammad whose first revelation was "Read in the name of thy Lord" (the Quran, 96:1).
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 4:37am)
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Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 3:49am)
oofoo can't you guys comment without turning it into a lecture/essay );
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 3:02am)
You've missied the point, this isn't about language it is about identifying a concept.

An apple is an apple in any language. In the same way God, Allah, Eloha, Elohim, YHWH, Ugatme - to me it makes no difference how anyone wishes to identify or relate to God, after all, God created these differening languages for a reason.

This also isn't about other religions, as if you study the faith of the Kapauku Papuans to all extents and purposes it is Islam, very much confirming what Allah says in the Quran that to every nation was sent a messenger.

Arabic was the language of the last Prophet, and yes we have the Quran. We accept the Quran as the final word from God. What the Quran or the Sunnah for that matter doesn't do at any point is limit the interpretation of faith to the Arabic language.

Faith, values, labels, defenitions etc trascend the boundires of language. If they didn't then 80% of the worlds Muslims would not be Muslims as about 80% of us do not speak or understand Arabic.

Neither of us are creating faith, we are however disagreeing in interpreting aspects of it. Neither interpretation takes a person out of the fold of Islam, and I suspect we will have to agree to disagree, and Allah knows best.
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 2:42am)
Farrukh, do you mind If I call you Farrukh (your id reminds me of some one) . The point is we are not praying in any other religion and after the last sermon, all the previous religions were updated , means no longer ultimate religion, just like the ultimate messenger Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Similarly, if we wants to mention out creator , we have to mention his name, Allah. What other religion pray is not our concern. May Allah guide them the proper way. But as long we are in Islam, we have to name the Creator properly. Allah also have 99 other names which are in facts some of the powers he holds. The word Elaah is consider to bet he most powerful word and most important part of our believe. LA ELAAH HA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD UR RASOOL UALLAH. there is no Elaah (the one and only, the most powerful, the one whom to be worshiped, the one to be feared) beside Allah and Prophet Muhammad PBUH is his messenger.

Not my thoughts.. Because I didn't create this religion.
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 2:29am)
Maybe, my commentary below related to the semetic languages and the name of God in these languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Aramiac).

We know that Allah Almighty revealed himself to all of the nations of the world, which includes those which use other languages.

For example the Kapauku Papuans are a mountainous people inhabiting the highlands of western New Guinea. The word/ name they se to describe God/ Allah is 'Ugatme'. Presumably they have used this word for hundreds if not thousands of years, and I also preume they would pray in their language.

I'm not convinced that we discount prayers in other languages, as while for us we have access to Quran and access to the language of Arabic. The fact that others exist today who do not, and who pray in their own languages to God, whom they label with a different name, shows to me that faith cannot, should not, has not and will not ever focus around one language.

Just my thoughts and Allah knows best.
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 2:20am)
Good points Choosa, but is it acceptable if we read English translation in Namaz? I guess its not acceptable because it is required to recite arabic in Namaz. Similarly, If Allah named himself Allah ( Al Elaah ) ,it is not acceptable to name him anything else, not even what ever our convenience allows.
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 1:38am)
Allah is the Arabic name for God.

In English we can say ?gods? suggesting a plural. We can also assign a gender by saying ?goddess?. The word Allah is independent of these two characteristics. Allah refers to the creator of the Universe, neither male nor female, without partners; a singular Entity - who may be known and understood by the attributes which Allah has revealed about himself.

Aramaic was a common language used between 600 BC to 650 AD, a language of Jesus, which is written from right to left, as Arabic. The word ?HHLA? (right to left) is transliterated as ?ELAHH?.

In Hebrew, the word ?ELOHIM? which is the plural of the word ?ELOHAW? is derived from the Aramaic word ?ELAHH? which is pronounced identically as the Arabic word ?ALLAH?

If you actually read the Bible in Arabic you will see that they use the word Allah to refer to God. The same can be observed in the oldest Churches where the word Allah is inscribed on the walls

In my understanding whether you say Allah or God makes little difference, as its a label we use to identify an Entity i.e. the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe.
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 10:36pm)
Hey Mega what about Ohhh Loardddd!!
hehhehe :P

I dont know....Allah is God in my Opinion...I don't make a differentiation.

SOME PEOPLE think its very WHITE GURL of me to say GOD.....(ahemmm)

A Friend of mine always says "You know in our Religion Allah...blah blah blah....etc" Like I am not Muslim and Allah is not my God and Islam is not my religion!! :(

Thats sooo Offensive! :P
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 9:40pm)
It is surprising and it has happened many times with me like while discussing religion I almost always run into someone who feels offended that I use the word "God". For example when we talk about the One and Only God (Allah in Arabic). It is shocking for me to notice that most of the Muslim do not know that the word "Allah" is the Arabic word for the word "God". Many of them believe that "Allah" is the name of the Muslim God. They do not realize that the word "Allah? does not belong exclusively to the Muslims and that it has always been used before (and after) Islam by the Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians when they speak about God. Talking to English speaking people about God using the word "Allah" is very much the same like speaking to Arabic speaking people about "Allah" using the word God. It makes all the sense to show respect to the people and their language by speaking to them in the language they use. Insisting on the use of the word "Allah" which is the Arabic word for God immediately creates the illusion that "Allah" is a whole different deity than God of the whole world. It creates a god that belongs only to the Muslims, and takes the universality of Islam out of it.
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 3:40pm)
there are two opinions on this:

1. Some scholars hold Allah to be the personal name of God. I think, if I remember correctly, Al-Ghazali holds this view.

2. Others simply think it refers to the name God in Arabic. It is a combination of al-ilah... This is the most favored view from my understanding.

If one holds the second view, than there really is no difference.

Further, IMHO, when one says God, than obviously it entails the same being that created us, i.e. ALLAH. So it really depends on context.
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 4:41am)
ALLAH IS THE NAME GIVEN TO GOD BY THE MUSLIMS,

ITS IN ARABIC,,,, ARABIC IS THE LANGUAGE OF ANGELS AND THE QURAN WAS REVEALED TO OUR BELOVED PROPHET ON THE BLESSED NIGHT OF POWER!!

GOD IS THE NAME GIVEN BY THE CHRISTIANS,,,

THEY ARE ACTUALLY 99 NAMES OF ALLAH!!!

SHALL WE DO ALL 99,,,,,
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 4:14am)
Thats exactly what I believe. God can be plural, mean Gods. But Allah can't be plural. And that proves the Soorah Akhlaas. No one like Allah. So the word God can't be equivalent to Allah.