well said Qatiq, of course the bottom line i can get it from ur talk is the "Balance" Life!!!

Bongeek rightly said just one thing you are not meant to starve your body or ignore it but keep its need at minimal if you spend hours at gym and saloon and don't feed you soul with prayers and thing then slowly it does not matter you lose it, and if you keep you body feeding to sruvivve and not living to eat and remember always that your sould will return to Allah you keep it healthy by praying and all then what ever you do focuses on strengthing your sould and your body remains a closh for it otherwise it becomes a iron cage in which your sould slowly grows weak

i would say Pseudo Intelligence. Ignorance is some what can be pardon, but if u know the fact and denying it with false facts then it is worst!

What is more dangerous- ignorance or pseudo intellectualism?

:)

"the more you strengthen your body your soul grows weak and the body takes over and you are involved in your worldly existence. and the more you strengthen your sould the sould takes command and you grow nearer to allah"

"the more you strengthen your body your soul grows weak and the body takes over and you are involved in your worldly existence. " Truly wrong.

Tell me one thing, if u think that "your body need food" then one thing for sure something is coming to the soul a signal, that tells us "I am hungry need food" , tell me one more thing where that thought is coming from? where those feeligns for instance: hunger, love, anger, adoring, caring is coming from? I never seen any Dead Body is asking for FOOD.

It is about "filtering" the right feelings and then achieving the desired result as Allah already said in Koran that why this world is created. "To be known by His creature" and "Human" got the "Ilm / Knowledge" and for that Knowledge "Angels" bow in front of him.

Now it is more detail discussion what is that "Knowledge" is that is given to us by Allah? but we will talk later on that topic.

About rest of the stuff as said , "and the more you strengthen your sould the sould takes command and you grow nearer to allah" very true, but hey it doesn't mean u stop eating! or something, coz if i do calculation about eating.... then let me ask u this, how much we do eat? around 30-60kg in a month? right? nwo tell me, if thats true, then why i only gain 2lbs or 1 lbs per month, where the rest of the stuff goes? okay u can say it flushed in toilet, but hey we dont do that much of toilet! not that 40 kg stuff.

So the question arise here... where the rest of the stuff goes, what become to remaiing 30Kg in our body?

If u contemplate on that issue that "what body is? " then u will noticed on thing.... It is the cloth of our soul, to keep that body fresh, soul feed us with the thoughts that "eat this and eat that , dont go in that much of cold, etc etc".

In the end i would say "Soul is the only important part that will remain for ever, and Body is just a cover / cloth for this world, and whatever we are doing and saying it is all from Soul and for Soul"

For instance, we are supposed to eat the "Halal" products, why is that? why we are not allowed to eat Pork,a nd drink alchol? well there are reasons, coz what u gonna eat will "polute" ur soul, so once ur soul gonna be poulted it won't be able to see the divine light, and once u r away from that light, ur astray from the right path. Same goes with anger, if u get angry , u gonna polute ur soul, though angerness appearance is on Body, but actually itis the stuff that makes ur "Soul" poluted!

Take Care,

Mudassir

wow such deep though provoking comments from you women .. you go, all you soul sistas ! :P

what was that saying...that the "body is the window to the soul"? if the window's cracked, no one will bother to look in .. ! (H)

Your soul is real...when you die, your body becomes ashes....so keep your soul pure as always....as well as your heart.

LMAO @ Freak and Will

I am with u. I dont understand it either. I would rather go for a run to 'work' on my body

and Miss my soul

lol

"Cogito Ergo Sum".. I think therefore I am.

One theory extrapolating on dualism can be found in Rene Descartes book Discourse on method.

This is a Rather involved question with many, many theories.. in the end I think it boils down to which one makes sense to you.

I think every one should expose them selves to philosophical thought... Phil 101 should be a university prerequisite in my opinion.

YEH you said 'free will' i thought that 'will' was that whale that had to be freed );

sorry, im gonna have to pass this JE...way too much thinking power required for this early in the morning :(

Qatiq


"the more you strengthen your body your soul grows weak and the body takes over and you are involved in your worldly existence. and the more you strengthen your sould the sould takes command and you grow nearer to allah"

that sounds about right...it seems tru cuz when folks get caught up in ther own looks and physical appearance they tend to forget and end up following the haram path they think they can conquer anything...jsut cuz they look good on the outside...but what counts is the soul and mind...mos def a good way of putting it!!!!

well here is how i think, we can strengthen our souls by praying keeping it away from ipurities and we can strentgen our body by eating right food doing exercise and all. i don't know where i heard this probably in a jumma khutba the more you strengthen your body your soul grows weak and the body takes over and you are involved in your worldly existence. and the more you strengthen your sould the sould takes command and you grow nearer to allah

Soul never sleep at first.

Coz Body is like a Cloth to our Soul, and if Sould "sleep" then it is like "departed" and we won't able to move!


And u r rite our Soul just depart from our "body" while we asleeep!

both are real ...our souls physically use our body...with out a body our soul could not communicate with the outside world...when the soul is asleep the body is practically dead... every night when we sleep our souls is somewher (only Allah knows best) while our bodies remain ...our soul is what will last on...and our bodies will disintegrate...when we pass on