hey what happened here?

historical situations?

And when your Lord brought forth from the children of Adam, from their backs, their descendants, and made them bear witness against their own souls: Am I not your Lord? They said: Yes! we bear witness. Lest you should say on the day of resurrection: Surely we were heedless of this.

Surely We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to be unfaithful to it and feared from it, and man has turned unfaithful to it; surely he is unjust, ignorant;

And when your Lord said to the angels, I am going to place in the earth a khalif, they said: What! wilt Thou place in it such as shall make mischief in it and shed blood, and we celebrate Thy praise and extol Thy holiness? He said: Surely I know what you do not know.
And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right.
They said: Glory be to Thee! we have no knowledge but that which Thou hast taught us; surely Thou art the Knowing, the Wise.
He said: O Adam! inform them of their names. Then when he had informed them of their names, He said: Did I not say to you that I surely know what is ghaib in the heavens and the earth and (that) I know what you manifest and what you hide?
And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam they did obeisance, but Iblis (did it not). He refused and he was proud, and he was one of the unbelievers.
And We said: O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the garden and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish and do not approach this tree, for then you will be of the unjust.
But the Shaitan made them both fall from it, and caused them to depart from that (state) in which they were; and We said: Get forth, some of you being the enemies of others, and there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time.
Then Adam received (some) words from his Lord, so He turned to him mercifully; surely He is Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful


If you have no idea what I'm talking about... you didn't come to the book club :-)

I had a great time too. The best times in life, and the most memorable are always spent just shooting the breeze with freinds. I learned a lot by hearing other people's perspective on things, by not letting ourselves do that we miss out on lots of growth opportunities. We must do it soon... maybe we'll even look at the book :-), but can we really promise that?

Sorry people, I couldn't make it!

a total blast! I had a great time folks...

four people showed up - Fattoun, muslimguy, myself and a friend of mine ... though we were supposed to discuss the book, we barely did .... from created/uncreated of the Holy Quran to hadith development to symbolism to predestination to Einstien's theory of relativity to big bang to Caliph Uthman (R) and ....

next time iA we make an attempt at discussing the book so those who couldn't/didn't show up didn't miss much in terms of the book yet missed out on a lot P:

Hello Again...!

I guess it has beenlong time since you guys came to this coutry or may be you were born here.
you guys have forgotten how things get decided back home ... " Dictatorship way"
since you all nice guys, I guess i will be the Dictator for this village.. so what am gonna do is assign a date and time, and if you are REALLY interested in this club, you will find a time to attend, provided that I am giving you a week or more NOTICE.. you can always arrange your time to atteend if you really want..

so My ruling for this matter is:

Meeting is on Monday September 5th between 4~5 PM in Lajolla Area... I will be nice enough to let you choose the coffehouse you like.

RULINGS ARE FINAL

Sincerely,

Your Dictator

well i'll be there since i go there to read usually over the weekend anyway ... so anyone is coming good otherwise i'll enjoy good coffee by the beach ;) Eahab, i'll be at the other coffee shop since i dont think anyone else would be showing up other than us ... yallah massalaama.

I'm good either way. You guys decide. I'll check back here 6:45 ish (could we do 7:30). We could postpone two weeks if we really wanted... and people actually promised to do the reading and come. but i also think if this is going to be something serious we should meet today... even if its just the 3 of us. I doubt we will finish discussing 5 chaps anyways. Ok... i'll check back in a bit.

hi everyone , thanks faten and eahab, becoz it would really help to have it next week, i really wanted to come too. could we have it next weekend, i will be here, sometime in the afternoon or so? id like to hear from everyone about what works for u guys :)

if we were to postpone it... when do we have it? Next week is labor day weekend. I'm going to be around, and I actually have a friend visiting from out of town who has read the book before and said he would like to attend this, but will others attend? anyone leaving town for the weekend?

hi mysterasif, afternoon would have been good for me, between 12 to 5 ish, but we're invited for dinner someplace (u know desi dinners! they last forever and like my ami is like, u have to start 'dolling up' like two hours before or whatever nonsense). i really wanted to come :( but isa next time. i hope u guys will post about how it went :) and have a next meeting too, where i can join in.

cool, 7 @ living room then...

I won't be able to have it at my place unfortunately this time. If the living room is really crowded we could have it at barnes & noble, say the one in mira mesa instead. It doesn't matter to me. Why don't we just meet at the livingroom and then we can decide from there if we want to move, just so we have some place final and there is no confusion. I'll check back here once more at like 5 in case there is a consensus for somewhere else. I feel responsible, we should have drilled the place down earlier.

btw khush, what time would work foru?

hmm i'm with kareem on this one ... partially ... khair, i switched my day over so i can make it on sat at 7, i think the other coffee shop in La jolla cove (not the living room) would be a decent place? Or Eahab's place ... u guys decide :)

i thoght only arabs cant keep their words, but it seems paki's too cant. lol

For god sake you have been talking about this book for months and now 3 people will show up....

if we cant agree about a time to read a book, how can we agree about more important issues.. no wonder where muslims are these days... talk talk and no actions..

No hard feelings

hi everyone, hate to be the bottleneck again but sat at 7 will def not work for me, but if it works for everyone else definitely go ahead with it. maybe next time inshAllah ill be able to join, and have all the reading done by then too, btw mysterasif, we do all care i think :)

can't do saturday. i am going to be in orange county :(
but since i haven't even been reading, so i don't want to be the reason for delaying this meeting. let's do whatever time and day suits the majority.....

you know... Saturday is actually better for me too. 7:00 sounds good.

ok faten, i'll see what i can do ... can't promise but i'll let u guys know tom :)