DHTML Menu / JavaScript Menu Powered by Milonic
Already a member? Sign In

Village Journals help
Resonate your identity with Naseeb journals. Express your opinions, share your thoughts, post your writings and connect with like minded people through the power of expression.

Does Prayer help ?


A recent study suggests that praying for recovery after a major event like surgery is ineffective.

The article: www.boston.com

What do you think ?

Comments from mullahs and mullah-wannabes would be especially intriguing (H)
 

Add Comments

 
Add
 

  Comments on this journal

Login to find out (April 1, 2006 at 9:22am)
ft i agree totally with 'the probability of getting something I want is directly proportional to the intensity of my prayers' and the submission aspect; obviously this doesn't work 100% of the time.. but it has for me in the past.
 
Login to find out (April 1, 2006 at 4:03am)
Yes,prayer can and does make a difference.Not in the life of God,for He is complete and perfect,and therfore,has no need.But we have a need to transcend ourselves, to stand in awe before a mighty power.We have to recognize that there is somthing greater than ourselves,something to which we can aspire.
God is changeless,so our prayers have no effect on him.So why we prayer??Becasue our prayers have an effect on us.Each time we prayer,it reminds us tht we live in a loving universe,and tht a Divine Spark glows within our soul.Saying a prayer can be like picking up the telephone and communicating with God.
Finally i can say it can be source of strength,comfort, and inspiration...
 
Login to find out (April 1, 2006 at 3:38am)
God has the power to make it right for you :)
 
Login to find out (April 1, 2006 at 3:24am)
Agreed ft, but sometimes you can pray all you want for a certain thing to happen, but if God doesnt think its right for you, it wont happen !
 
Login to find out (April 1, 2006 at 2:48am)
I strongly believe in the power of prayers. For me the probability of getting something I want is directly proportional to the intensity of my prayers. But then, achieving that level of intensity takes a lot- your whole being. A moment, a place where your mind, heart and soul are synchronized in a beautiful yet painful excercise of a realization of your insignificance and a submission to the power of God. But once achieved, I know that no power in the world can stop me from having what i want. And it all depends on how much you want something to happen. Same goes for praying for others. My parents' prayers work for me and vice versa. Mashallah!

:)
 
Login to find out (April 1, 2006 at 1:44am)
prayers are effective and i have seen proof of that...a few years ago my father underwent bypass surgerey and a few days later had some complications. It came to the point where he had been in ICU for three weeks and the doctors had said we don't what to do, the only thing to do now is pray and we did and had been. On a saturday morning someone organized an Ayat-e-karima amal and MashAllah by that afternoon he started improving and within a week he was home. Prayers do work and u cannot judge the power of prayers in surveys and research studies...Allah cannot be captured and measured or predicted.
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 6:48pm)
lol labs what are you implying? that are you all suffering? then stop posting pics of those monkey men !! :P
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 4:20pm)
'people usually pray when they are suffering' ? zz i think you're wrong there.. take a pile of us as a representative sample.

we have our share of hardship/ bad days.. do tehy make us more religious ? or are we too obstinate to pray regularly despite even those. i think people who pray and live longer as one of the studies i googled said were regular churchgoers anyway.. whether thats because they were healthier to start with or for some other reason is unexplained..... you cant decide whether or not you should be praying based on science or statistics!
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 3:39pm)
America has always been a religious country. Except for some states on the coasts, most of the states in the midwest and the south are deeply religious and largely republican. America has always been republican .. and the democrats have always had to fight hard to take control of the control.

Another view: people usually pray when they are suffering. Do people pray when they are happy? And what positive effect, if any, does it have? Thats a topic for another scientific study, and thus would lead to another paper in a prestigious journal and further a scientists career ! (H)
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 10:42am)
Rosegold.. there is no study that refutes prayer... even this one does not..

it's a mis-reading by the one who wrote the article...
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 10:38am)
There is a Dua called Dua Kumayl which describes prayer as the weapon of the believer and the only thing he/she owns.....
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 10:37am)
even if it doesn't cure someone. whatever other effect that prayer is may be psychological or spiritual - I guess we'll all find out in the end anyway.
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 10:28am)
Sometimes God and prayer is the only thing you have!

In these instances even 10 million studies etc. refuting that prayer dosn't help means absolutely nothing.
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 10:06am)
Masooma... that is without a doubt proven... but those studies are concerned with the person who is SUFFERING that is doing praying...

this study attempted to measure prayer for people over distances, and the person suffering has no knowledge that people are praying for him...
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 10:04am)
I'm not a fan of these studies. The reason for this is because their are so many factors involved in the healing process, that it is practically impossible to determine what caused a patient to recover and what did not.

'No one single study is ever going to provide an answer," said Jeffery Dusek of Harvard Medical School, who helped lead the study being published in the April 4 issue of the American Heart Journal.

This is precisely why MOST SCIENTISTS don't give a jack-a$$ about these types of studies.

There are other weakness inherit in this study as well. For example, how can we really say the intensity of the prayer of a person un-connected to the one suffering was that deep? The fact that they are not really connected to the one suffering is a huge factor in determining whether a prayer can really be effective or not. It is not necessarily about the quantity of people praying.

The researchers cautioned that the study was not designed to test the existence of God or the benefit of other types of prayer, such as praying for oneself or at bedsides of friends or relatives. They also did not rule out that other types of distant prayer may be effective for other types of patients.

The fact of the matter is those that want to read into this article a blow to religion, are being just as dogmatic as a person arguing that prayer will cure every illness. God's answer to a prayer is not always 'dictated' by what a person may perceive it to be.
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 9:50am)
There have been several well-documented medical studies to indicate that prayer has healing powers. People who had someone praying for them, whether they were aware of it or not, recovered at significantly better rates than those who didn't.
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 9:16am)
hmmmmm we can argue this later.. on another thread!
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 8:27am)
It is the true story of 50 "average" people who changed the world because they shared a multi-generational vision

thats what that link reads.

I am not saying every single person to land and settle on there was not a religion follower. What im saying is the foundations on which it was established, the foundations on which the american dream came to be was not "under one God" which came later.

Hundreds of thousands of chinese, desis, Africans came from around the world as well as the whites.

America has never been a catholic/christian country. Its just the image that is so well assumed.
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 7:35am)
sigh, american history textbooks say it was www.amazon.com
 
Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 7:20am)
no no no america was not based on religion namely any branch of catholism.

the three/free masonary along with protestants were religious branches.

But the same way america was NOT founded on democracy, it was NOT founded on religion.