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Ibn Taymiyah's answer on Yazid


"Yazid did not order the killing of al-Hussayn, but he did order to stop him from vying over the kingship, but he didn't kill those who killed al-Hussayn, nor did he avenge Hussayn from them, and this was a thing Yazid was condemned for,..."

"It was said to Ahmad ibn Hanbal: 'would hadith be taken from Yazid?' so he said: 'No,..'. Then it was said to him : 'some people say they love Yazid!', so he said: 'does one who believe in Allah and the Last Day love Yazid???' So it was said to him : 'then won't you curse him?' He said: 'when did you see your father cursing anybody??' .

"Never was one of the Hashemites taken as a captive in Islam, whether he was an Alawid or from any other , neither during the reign of Yazid nor in any other, but some Hashemite women were captivated by mushriks and 'People of the Book', like the mushrik Turks took captives among whomever they took as captives when they reached Baghdad; and from the biggest reasons for the captivating of Hashemite women was the aid offered by the Rafidah (to the invaders), (Shia like the Abbasid minister) Ibn al-Alqami and other than him".

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the entire answer to be translated later.
 

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Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 10:11pm)
no one claims to be proud of his religion or is indeed religious yet finds shame in defending a tenet so characteristic of his faith...but the Twelver Shia!!!

And if we could only spend (or waste?) more time on you..we would just show you how everything Shia is embarassing and shameful!!!
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 2:37pm)
that's part of ur religion, so u have to accept it. not part of ours so don't come near a Sunni and suggest mut'ah to him/her.

c'mon, when will u be a proud Shia???????? SHOW THE PRIDE!!!!! DO MUT'AH!!!!!
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 2:21pm)
Silky, nope sorry I dont engage in acts outside of marriage, that would be your mother.
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 1:25pm)
Keeper: If you can keep the salivating pit bulls at bay, I sure can comment. :) Im afraid of canines.
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 6:15am)
Mehnaz, you're a person that striked me as educated from the day I first met you (and still do when you put aside the insults, generalizations and sarcasm). I want your take on these citings. I wish I can see some constructive discussion as opposed to all this pointless namecalling and sarcasm.

It's too bad, I see citings, (in all of these journals), and love to see input from everyone, I listen and read tentatively, only to be disrupted by this type of talk....where everything useful is ignored. I saw nothing offensive in the above citings, or is it ignored because it's by our Sheikh?

Help me out here.
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 4:16am)
why am i talking to u anyways? aren't u the one who thought 'Amr bin Marouf' and "Nahy anil Munkar' were men?? lol

maybe you thought they were very famous and deserve having mut'ah with :D c'mon, rewards of doing mut'ah exceed those of having regular permenant marriage.

shall we say 'mabrook'? :)
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 4:09am)
I know, imam ali aint got nothing on you silky, not being sarcastic.
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 3:45am)
u'r hiding ur ignorance behind ur sarcasm. u and ur coreligionists are afraid to read us.

cowards. keep ignoring my posts and only pay attention to my esteemed self :D i know i vex you people alot, u have 'alerts' in ur village on me, and discussed me so many times in ur mut'ah swamp/village. u r so insecure, people. hundreds of u there..but only a handful over here watching..and when they write back on me..all they do, like u, is make my person the target of their attacks :)

cowards like ur mythical Imam Ali who, according to the lies you believe, he didn't avenge his wife Fatimah after Omar broke her rib and burned down her house and caused her miscarriage, also when the imamate was taken away from him, when he married his daughter to Omar, etc etc etc etc! lol ...yes, that Ali exists only in ur myths, for we don't believe Ali was such a coward, but ok..if u want to believe such an Ali exists, then he was such a coward..and you are following his example :) in fact, when u do get mad..all u do is hit ur self with chains and swords!!! what kind of creatures are you???? how can you live with urselves??? loooooooool
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 3:06am)
which is why the caliphate should be reestablished, with you in power. dont you think its aweful that your intellectual grandeur is often unsanctioned?
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 1:23am)
lol, you fool, have mercy on yourself!!! you've shown everybody that you didn't read what's above!!!

yazid is not a sahabi, fool!!!

wallah your absolute ignorance and unique rashfulness is the "one of a kind".

yazid, like we say, "la nasobbah wala nahobbah = we neither swear at him nor do we love him".
 
Login to find out (February 15, 2006 at 1:01am)
You are right. Yazid was a wonderful sahaba, mashallah. I think your eloquence, Silky, is one of a kind in your generation. Perhaps you are pious enough to be Yazid's representative on Earth?