Is is ok to ask your partner to be, to have an HIV test before marriage?
Say you are getting married. Irrespective of how well you know the person, you wanna be sure (and safe). Is it ok to ask for an HIV test? You can offer to have one for yourself. Still how can you do it, without offending the person/families etc!!!Be realistic and frank about this one. :) This is serious stuff!
I was watching this documentary about how sex, out of marriage is becoming common in mainstream India. Especially among the middle class. So this is not just for the ppl here in the West. This could apply any where.
I am interested in your opinion! so share freely
I was watching this documentary about how sex, out of marriage is becoming common in mainstream India. Especially among the middle class. So this is not just for the ppl here in the West. This could apply any where.
I am interested in your opinion! so share freely



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you can get people to dislike the taste of a medicine by telling them "don't worry about the taste, just drink it"
while if you said something like "this'll make you feel better, drink it"
they report the tastes significantly differently
reports cluster into "that tasted so nasty" and "a bit like strawberries"
from the same med. all cause the charismatic young physician primed them to respond in such a away.
telling someone somethign is going to hurt or "this may hurt a bit" will make them extremely sensitive to pain (i learned this the hard way when performing clinical breast exams)
it boiled down to the power of suggestion and placebo effect. both very real phenomena
do you believe in mesmerism plato?
till then i am free to do all the quackery that i want.
Have you taken the hypocrisy oath yet?
thats pretty much the only ways to get it.
if you haven't been in those situations you're free and clear.
most people who are diagnosed with HIV go through the whole "guilt, cheated, depression" phases. But there are treatments available that increase lifespan dramatically, to the point where it is concievable that infected people die of somethign entirly unrelated to HIV.
if you test + it is no longer a death sentance, you live longer with HIV than some cancers (I'm thinking lung and pancreatic definitly, most sarcomas, and possbly melanoma).
so, you are fck, but not as fck as being diagnosed with lung cancer (don't smoke folks, though as you can see in my pic, i smoke... sigh, the hypocrisy is palpable).
the problem with longer lifespan is that people live to transmit more.
hence the resurgance of HIV in the gay community, and in the ghettos. a second problem is that the increased survival prospects make people less afriad of it (not you guys apparently) and less likely to take precautions.
emm....
i dunno why i went into this....
WHAT WOULD YOU DO???
AS I'D CRY AND CRY AND CRY AND PRAY???
I THINK IT BETTER TO BE SAFE THEN SORRY!!!!
STD CAN LIVE INSIDE YOUR BODY FO UP TO 6 MONTHS BEFORE ITS DETECTED,,,,,,,,,,,,, I HAVE YEARLY CHECK UPS DONE AS ITS ROUTINE FOR MY LIFE ASSURANCE!!!
I guess I don't neccessarily understand the idea of lying about your virginity or not. Maybe if you're about to expire (i.e. girl over 30), then desperatee times call for desperate measures. But otherwise you would think you would want to marry someone who could accept you for the person you are.
Plato; Some really nice justification for keeping your virginity intact. Most men are quite immature when it comes to sex, so hats off to you! :)
Well, I must leave this conversation...tommorow I am going to California to be with my husband...no more naseebing for me when I am with him. Take care! ;)
i've never crossed the line either.
there are some things that i would prefer not to cheapen, so that if and when the time comes, they remain precious, if only in my mind. Value derives from scarecity.
and this is somehting that can only be shared once after all.
t know nearly enough muslim women well enough to come up with my own estimate.
and, it may be different from city to city and country to country.
Not caring is not the same as not thinking less of someone.
you can still care about the person you marry, and her previous relationships and stil lnot think less of them
DPP- to divide this virginity issue from religion is hard, cause, wehn you come down to it, i'm religious so it would be dicietful to pretend that my opinions aren't influence in some way by it.
but,
over the whole "greatest gift " thing someone mentioned
thre is also the issue of a person wanting to maintain a special relationship with their spouse that others have not had. perhaps possesiveness, but it also comes down to what the relationship means.
is it unique?
people in relationships have thier own special songs and special places and whatnot, places that are important to them becaues they share it only with thier loved one, sex is something that is even more significant than that.
something that is "ours" and "ours" alone
intimacy between two people does not need to have a religious meaning to make it special.
Its no big deal, and is totally anonymous too.. so what's the harm?
ConfusedF: Yeah I am talking about the desi community. Why would I mention India, mate? ;)
Paradise: Where are you getting your stats from? I am thinking no where :P So make sure you state that IN YOUR OPINION :) You have brought up some good points so dont take me wrong.
As of virginity, everybody seems to care at some level i think, but we all cope with it, cuz of the changing times.
The original issue does question the virginity, as for some reason whenever we talk about HIV, intercourse comes to mind. That is a stereotype. May be we can overcome that with time. Good discussion........keep it on! :)
What you are saying, about how sex should be the "biggest gift that a husband and wife exchange after marriage"...that is indeed the way things are SUPPOSED to be amongst Muslims. That is the way we want them to be, and how we idealize them to be. Sadly, that is not the case in America.
I personally know of 5 different Muslim girls who were not virgins when they got married, and married men other than those that they had previously slept with. Four out of five of these husbands didn't care (well, one of these couples got married recently, so who knows, let's wait and see), the 5th husband I am mentioning did want to divorce her, and they ended up divorcing, but I was told it was because his mother hated her...so I am not sure that that guy was upset when he found out she was not a virgin. Maybe these guys were virgins themselves and so couldn't tell that their wives were not virgins.
Anyways, I am beginning to sound perverted. Everyone tells me I talk just like a guy, and I am beginning to realize how true it is. :P