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Izzat


Is ka matlab kaun jaanta hai?



Mein is liye pooch rahi hoon kyoon ke aaj kal izzat ka matlab, mere khayal mein, bahut kam log jaante hain. Jahan dekho log ik doosre ki buraiyan kar rahe hain ya ik doore ko galiyan de rahe hain.



Insan ki kis tara se parvarish ki gayi hai, yeh to insan ka character hi batata hai. Is duniya mein (aur especially Naseeb pe) zayada log "izzat" ka matlab bilkul nahin jaante...bahut sharmindagi ki baat hai.



I'd be happy to translate if you guys didn't catch that :)
 

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Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 7:05pm)
Acha aap sab izzat ko ik aur "angle" se bhi dekh sakte hain...jaise ke...kuch log darr ko ghaltfehmi mein izzat mein badal detein hain...aur voh kyoon?...kyoon ke kai log samajhte hain ke khauf izzat ka ik "aspect" hai (sorry folks, don't know how else to say it...can't think of a synonym) aur jo kissi se darta hai, voh ya to us insan se nafrat karta hai ya vakya hi us ki izzat...halanke is tara ki izzat asli izzat nahin lekin darr ka doosra naam hai.
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 4:42pm)
Sam77: Neither are they mine, nor are they from a poetry book, Mostly, they are from internet sites!

Happy Surfing!!
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 3:48pm)
Hey thanks for the sites Shabber....actually I wasn't aware that these existed....

Will definitely use them from now on.

:)
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 2:31pm)
Well what I wrote is not a poem, its a saying. My dada related that to me.

In response to your questions:

1. Apni na sahi, hamaari izzat ka to khyal kiya hota!

Apni na sahi, apna=my own, but since the narrator is the male he's referring to the female, apna would be for my own, na=negative/not, sahi=ok, in other words it means "even though its not her own "... "she should have taken into consideration our/my dignity

2. rutba=status

3. Shaan=glory, shaukat=power, dignity

4. Shohrat=good reputation, famousness, recognition, etc i think
Aish=luxury
Araam=relaxation,

so aish-o-aram = luxury and relaxation, in urdu synonyms are often placed with each other

These are some good urdu dictionary sites, sometimes even googling a word can get you the answer ;)
www.cs.wisc.edu www.geocities.com
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 1:01pm)
Mhdslm and Shabber....so what I want to know is dude you come up with those lines yourself or are those out of some poetry book ;) LOL.....ok folks let it be said that in this village it won't take much to impress me.

btw, I need some translations for the following words:

1. Sahi (from Mhdslm's comment , "Apni na sahi" )
2. rutba
3. Shaan-o-shaukat (I think I know that shaan means something along the lines of 'brilliance" but what does shaukat mean)
4. shohrat, aish o araam ( I think I know that araam is referring to peace/rest?!)
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 12:23pm)
Sophisty: Thanks!!
I am glad you liked it.
 
Login to find out (April 7, 2006 at 9:13pm)
Mhdslm: I love what you wrote...mash'allah! To add to what you, Shabber, and Icekool have written...

Jo izzat karta hai, voh izzat pata hai. Chalo theek hai, manti hoon ke izzat pana koi ik do din ka kaam to hai nahin lekin agar aap kissi aur ki izzat hi na karo ge to doosra aap ko kaisi nazar se dekhe ga?

Humare pass daulat ho, shohrat ho, khoobsurati ho, aish o aram ho LEKIN jis insan ke paas izzat nahin, voh din bhar apne aap se aur doosron se kaise aankh milaey ga?

Zara socho to.
 
Login to find out (April 7, 2006 at 8:52am)
Mhdslm: Don't know if this makes any sense but the only other context that comes to my mind is:

Izzat bazaar main nahin biktee jo kay khareed li jae, as Sam77 said, izzat upnay aamaal say kamai jaati hai (priceless)

:)
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 10:25pm)
Jis ney daulat khoee, usney kuch nahee khoya
Jis ney sehat khoee, usney kuch khoya
Jis ney izzat khoee, usney sab kuch khoya
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 9:58pm)
Izzat can be used in alot of ways. The context, in which it is used, gives us, its true meaning.

For E.g.

Buzurgon ki izzat karna seekho! (Respect)
Apni na sahi, hamaari izzat ka to khyal kiya hota! (Dignity)
Ghar ki Izzat ko mitti mein mila diya! (Honour)
Hum ek Izzatadar khandaan se taluq rakhte hain! (Esteem)
Hamara rutba, hamari izzat, hamari shaan-o-shaukat! (Grandeur)
Parwardigaar ne hame izzat bakhshi hai! (Glory)

Can anybody think about any other context?
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 4:02pm)
Bahut khoob kaha aap ne, Sam77. Issi liye mujhe humara culture bahut acha lagta hai, kyoon ke izzat o ehtaram ko kafi importance di jaati hai.
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 3:01pm)
Parvarish means "brought up"! Thanks for the translation for that one line Icekool. I'm so loving this village cuz its the ONLY village where I'm actually learning some cool stuff. :)

Jo laug izaat nehain karthai hain, isleeyai hai kain oonko khabhee izaat neahin milleee tho isleeyai izaat karna nehain seekhai.

Btw....izaat is so supposed to be earned, you can't demand it because if you do, you'll only get contempt
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 2:46pm)
Ji haan yeh to hai. Bahut sharmindagi ki baat hai kyoon ke jaise ke mein sochti hoon, duniya mein jis ke paas izzat, adab, aur akhlaq nahin, uk insan ke paas kuch bhi nahin. Daulat, shohrat, aish o araam ko kya khona jab izztdari ka kissi ko ehsas hi nahin, hai na?
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 2:23pm)
Right Sophisty! Izzat karna jo hai vo humain bachban say hee sikhaya jaata hai! It reflects in our character.

Kuch loagon ko aap kuch bhi keh kar dekh lain lekin vo doosron ki izzat phir bhi nahin kartay. Unhain shoro say hee kisi nay nahin yeh sikhaya hota hai! Lekin phir is tarha kay logon ki bhi koi izzat nahin karta hai.....
 
Login to find out (April 6, 2006 at 8:11am)
Bahut khoob kaha hai aap ne, Sehbaz. Totally agree!
 
Login to find out (April 5, 2006 at 11:46pm)
Ameen. :)
 
Login to find out (April 5, 2006 at 7:14pm)
Izzat "earn" ki jaati hai, yeh to mein samajhti hoon lekin phir bhi kaafi baar yeh bhi hota hai ke aap kisi doosre ko jitni bhi izzat do, voh doosra aap ko laat hi maare ga.

Sorry for sounding so pessimistic folks but sadly this is what I have witnessed and encountered in this choti si duniya, ke Allah mian ke banaye huey log aaj kal ke zamane mein kam hi ik doore ki izzat karte hain.

Allah mian sab ko ache raaste pe laye. Ameen.
 
Login to find out (April 5, 2006 at 6:18pm)
how come sometimes i can read people's comments, but sometimes it looks blank?? Like Samanz's comment is blank and I have to go premium to read it... hm
 
Login to find out (April 5, 2006 at 6:16pm)
Insan doosre logon ko izzat dikha kar izzat paa ta hai
 
Login to find out (April 5, 2006 at 6:14pm)
I just got invited, and I think Im the only one here who knows pretty much nothing. :( lol.