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Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini


Great Book...reminded me a bit of God of Small things but unique in itself...i was sobbin and cryin here and there throughout the book....although i m not sure if he exaggerated on the talibans...but hey its supposed to be fiction isnt it?!but i m sure something most people who r torn and displaced in war and unrest can relate to....and it kind of softened my presumptions on the US....oh well
 

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Login to find out (June 1, 2006 at 1:24am)
I meant fatalism, not fatality...ahem..it's 1am....excuses, excuses!
 
Login to find out (June 1, 2006 at 1:24am)
I totally agree AvaS. There is a degree of fatality that is part of the culture almost - an oriental trait if you will - that I feel has developed over years of indifference.

And the patriarchal nature of society does not help at all. It was such a sad movie - did you watch the DVD extras at all? the actors were all real people - esp the kids. I thought that was impressive.
 
Login to find out (June 1, 2006 at 12:31am)
Banglamom, I have seen Osama and it is a very sad movie. What happened to the girl in the story is not uncommon in developing countries. I believe many prefer to turn a blind eye to the atrocities because they are Muslim. Some make excuses such as "bad things happen everywhere" as to avoid what is going on with them and addressing it.
 
Login to find out (May 31, 2006 at 11:51pm)
AvaS - two true things - everyone who has read this book has loved it, almost universally. I have not yet, and plan to soon. Have a copy already.

Secondly - it's true how we turn a blind eye to muslims committing atrocities. The taliban are a bunch of zealots committing some of the worst atrocities against muslims, and we are letting them. Have you seen Osama yet? Because only after watching a movie about it did the true nature of the taliban and the true ravages they've raged across the country really hit home to me.

Tragedy has to be made personal for it to have impact. The way to do that is through books, movies and art.
I think that is part of the reason we may be dispassionate about it - because it becomes yet another news item.

I'm a great fan of reading anything to do with 1947 and independance, I've read freebom at midnight as a teenager, etc...and knew enough intellectually, but it really hit home for me emotionally when I watched Earth 1947.

In the same way, the Kite Runner being made into a movie can only mean good things.
 
Login to find out (May 31, 2006 at 8:11am)
AdilFlorida, you summed it up very well. Instead of this I am disappointing we're still focusing on what is irrelevant rather than look at the deeper message in the book that could apply to everyone. Everyone who had read the book loves it.
 
Login to find out (May 31, 2006 at 3:27am)
i clicked on this thread thinking i'd read a discussion about something obvious like the big fat themes of redemption and forgiveness or friendship and betrayal.

interesting that we're talking about shia's and sunni's. i guess the sin/atonement stuff resonates more with christians. what do you all have to say? there is a dark vacuum in my brain where i should know about islamic literature.

i read it on a cross-country flight just this morning, btw. nice story. :)
 
Login to find out (May 29, 2006 at 3:37pm)
I could not keep it down once I started reading this one....Azalea: it was MUCH better, and definitely more touching than God of small things....I was a baby when my family had gone one summer to Kabul for summer vacation and my parents still have fond memories of that visit so many years later.
 
Login to find out (May 28, 2006 at 3:04pm)
I just finished reading this book and saw it as an excellent book. Sunni-Shia? Does it really matter? The point of the book is brotherhood and correcting our ways in life so we can receive salvation for ourselves in the end. I don't see anything negative said about the sunnis in this book - and I am Sunni and what some would consider Wahabi too.

The book is beautifully written and gives us a carpet ride to the Afghanistan that once was and the Afghanistan that is today. You can almost taste and feel the happiness, the joy, the misery and heartache. It is truly a brilliant and book and completey captivating.

There is much to learn about ourselves in this book and how would we have reacted in similar situations. The book goes to the greatest depth of human emotions...Hossenini's gives us the deepest elements of his characters and this gives us the ability to apperciate what he wants us to experience.

Also, why do we think the acts of the Tablibans were exaggerated when there is ample evidence to support their behavior? It amazes me our denial at the atrocities that have happened under the Tabliban regime. Geez, why do we Muslims never wish to question acts of atrocities commited by Muslims?

My athiest Iranian friend recommended this book and considered it one of the best she had read. I never realized or knew what it was about...and I am so glad she never told me.

Also, the film is coming out next year...www.imdb.com...auditions are taking place in LA.

Take care guys.
 
Login to find out (May 8, 2006 at 7:39am)
Yep islamic history is very cool..I am still learning and probably will continue to do so..its fascinating stuff..
 
Login to find out (May 8, 2006 at 5:32am)
Yes, I agree that it doesn?t matter what Khalid Hosseini is. The below was just the use of history to look at how we name names. Some readers find elements of anti-Sunni bias in the book ?The Kite Runner? and hold this to Hosseini possibly being Shia. The fact though is, he is surely not and would most probably be of the Sunni sect because the name Khalid isn?t respected among Shias.

About refugees. Banglamom?s got a point. Though Afghan refugees have spread throughout Pakistan and many have probably made it home and won?t return, there is little goodwill between the Afghans in general about Pakistan. Pakistan will always kick Afghanistan around to make sure it remains pro-Pakistan ? it always has and it always will ? the American presence is only delaying the inevitable. Pakistan plays the ?big brother? role with little shame and despite what could be considered generous assistance to landlocked Afghanistan, the big brother role is a more determinant factor in deciding the perception of the neighbor for Afghans. The perception is very very negative.

Like Khalid Hosseinin, the majority of educated, urban Afghans are Tajik and Sunni. Tajik?s normally despise Pakistan for its explicit role in promoting the Taliban and eventually murdering the great Tajik Leader Ahmed Shah Masood who kept even the Russians out of the Panjsher Valley. Being educated and urban, few Tajik?s eventually settled in Pakistan so most of the Taliban nutcase converts were of the normally illiterate Pushtun variety thereby exacerbating the divide between these two ethnic groups.
 
Login to find out (May 8, 2006 at 4:10am)
It hasn't softened my presumptions on the US..Who cares what Khalid is..he's human and muslim..most of all the book was fantastic..When is the film coming out I wonder..Its not long now..
 
Login to find out (May 7, 2006 at 6:51pm)
Erm - speaking of refugees in Pakistan. There is no way that there is anything great about being a refugee anywhere. But the next time you pass by one of the slums of Karachi, that's where you will find the refugees. Not being given equal employment or education or anything. This is in no way a slur on Pakistan, it is more a attempt to complete the picture presented by Hrao. Gotta run, :)
 
Login to find out (May 5, 2006 at 1:52am)
Why Khalid Hosseini cannot be Shia:

Khalid Hosseini is VERY UNLIKELY to be a Shia because: His first name is KHALID! How can anyone overlook that!

As we all know, Khalid was the great general also known as the 'Sword of Islam' during 7th century Arabia. The Caliph Omar hated his guts and twice publically humiliated him for his immoral attitude. In fact, the very first act of Omar on becoming Caliph was to kick Khalid out of the Army!

This much everyone accepts (though sunnis try to completely downplay it).

Other historians as well as Shias (perhaps with lots of bias), fill in the gaps as to what Khalid's problem was. The most extreme accounts say that he had many sexual fetishes and liked to rape the women of the defeated army on blood soaked fields to swimming in pools of wine and women to all sorts of other fantastic nonense.

More likely, Shias were unhappy at the defeat of those Arab tribes that refused to accept Abu Bakr as Caliph. They wanted Ali to be the leader. Abu Bakr had sent Khalid who whoop the renegad tribes into submission.

Anyway, just as you won't find a Shia female with the name 'Aisha', you rarely find a Shia male with the name 'Khalid'!

History can be so cool!
 
Login to find out (May 4, 2006 at 8:52am)
Afghanistan has five major ethnic groups.

1) Pashtun
2) Tajik
4) Hazara
5) Uzbek

Of these, I think only the Hazara are predominantly Shia (there are only two Shia tribes among the Pashtuns - Orakzai and another which I forget).

Khalid Hosseini is probably a Tajik - based purely on the assumption that 1) Hosseini is not a Pashtun name and secondly, most of the literate folks in Afghanistan (and many of the Afghans in the Bay Area I met) are Tajiks. Tajiks speak an older version of the Persian dialect and only a minority are Shias (many of these are Ismailis).

Though none of this matters, it is always cool to delve into!
 
Login to find out (May 2, 2006 at 12:43am)
In Afghanistan, nobody talks of Shia Sunni. The differences lie and are accentuated on the basis of Farsi/Pashtun. True that they probably can be segmented as Shia/Sunni but that's not the basis of identity segregation in Afghanistan. Culture, tribes and language matter more than religion there. When it comes to religion all of them would classify them as muslims. Personal observation.
 
Login to find out (May 1, 2006 at 10:31pm)
You know I keep reading about what hosseini must be, and it saddens me . As far as I know, he actually is both the ethnicities he mentions (or something similar). (and perhaps one parent is one sect and the other is the other). Yet why should it matter? Why must we "wonder" when the whole point was the brotherhood between the people? (that's such a poorly written 'the' sentence about 'the' brotherhood and 'the' people).

Anyway, my rant, continue on. assalam alaikum.
 
Login to find out (May 1, 2006 at 6:14am)
I thought it was very good but perhaps a little over written. I felt like he'd really put me through the emotional wringer and probably don't want to believe that such horrible things kept happening so consistently to innocent people

Ultimately, I think any discussion about ethnic roots feeds into what the book was about too doesn't it?
 
Login to find out (May 1, 2006 at 5:26am)
Umer...That is an interesting observation. The thought that he might be Shia never crossed my mind.
Its true Pakistan has done alot for them. They have treated Afghanis as one of their own. Even tho' most of Pakistan is in poverty , refugees have free health care and equal employment opportunities as well.
 
Login to find out (May 1, 2006 at 4:15am)
What a great book, eh,

I won't deny this. I got a little teary eyed and actually shouted, 'no' when something happened to Hassan and his wife later on.

I did wonder too whether the author exxagerated about the taliban. Granted, the tallitubbies turned into idiots but there are a lot of tribal rivalries giong on in afghanistan.

For example, the Taliban belong to the Pashtun tribe which resides in the south of Afgnaistan, close to Pakistan. The Pashtuns are sunni muslims. And sunni shia trouble does go on.

The northern and western regions are non-pashtun and associated with ex soviets states or Iran. Iran is a shia country and in the past fights between the mujahideen or the talbian-northern alliance has supported the shia factions.

The Hosseini in Khalid Hosseini makes me think whether he's a shia. And many shias will feel an association with Iran, even if they aren't of that nationality.

So, as biased as it may sound coming from me, there may be water to the argument that the writer too may have suffered from a shianic frustration.

It may also explain his comment on Pakistan being a terrible place for a refugee. This considering that Pakistanis have been the most hospitable to the Afghan refugees.

But a great great book. One of the best I've read in a long time.

Umer M.