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Leaving Babies Till Later


Please no hate mail from 30 and over females (i am in the same boat) OR catty comments from men.

The only reason I'm posting this is because the medical profession usually give out no advice or the wrong advice: ie. you can wait till forever to have kids; it's about time the media/ medical profession stated the facts :(

Delaying babies 'defies nature'

Women who wait until their late 30s to have children are defying nature and risking heartbreak, leading obstetricians have warned.

Over the last 20 years pregnancies in women over 35 have risen markedly and the average age of mothers has gone up.

Writing in the British Medical Journal, the London-based fertility specialists say they are "saddened" by the number of women they see who have problems.

They say the best age for pregnancy remains 20 to 35.

Over the last 20 years the average age for a woman to have their first baby has risen from 26 to 29.

The message that needs to go out is 'don't leave it too late'

Peter Bowen-Simpkins, Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists

The specialists, led by Dr Susan Bewley, who treats women with high-risk pregnancies at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital, warned age-related fertility problems increase after 35 and dramatically after 40.

Other experts said it was right to remind women not to leave it too late.

'Having it all'

In the BMJ, the specialists write: "Paradoxically, the availability of IVF may lull women into infertility while they wait for a suitable partner and concentrate on their careers and achieving security and a comfortable living standard."

But they warn IVF treatment carries no guarantees - with a high failure rate and extra risks of multiple pregnancies where it is successful.

For men, there are also risks in waiting until they are older to father children as semen counts deteriorate with age, they say.

Once an older woman does become pregnant, she runs a greater risk of miscarriage, foetal and chromosomal abnormalities, and pregnancy-related diseases.

They add: "Women want to 'have it all' but biology is unchanged.

"Their delays may reflect disincentives to earlier pregnancy or maybe an underlying resistance to childbearing as, despite the advantages brought about by feminism and equal opportunities legislation, women still bear full domestic burdens as well as work and financial responsibilities."

Dr Bewley told the BBC News website: "We are saddened because we are dealing with people who can't get pregnant or are having complications.

"Most women playing 'Russian Roulette' get away with it, most people are fine. But I see the casualties.

"The best time to have a baby is up to 35. It always was, and always will be.

She added: "I don't want to blame women, or make them feel anxious or frightened.

"The reasons for these difficulties lie not with women but with a distorted an uninformed view from society, employers, and health planners.

"Doctors and healthcare planners need to grasp this threat to public health and support women to achieve biologically optimal childbirth.

"Where we can, we should be helping women to have children earlier."

Clare Brown, Chief Executive of Infertility Network UK, said "Delaying having children until you are in your thirties is a choice many people make but they need to be aware of the added problems when trying to conceive, particularly over the age of 35 when a woman's natural fertility declines.

"When this is exacerbated by a further complication such as blocked tubes or low sperm count the chances of a successful pregnancy even using IVF are much less."

Peter Bowen-Simpkins, of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said: "The biological clock is one thing we cannot reverse or change.

"The message that needs to go out is 'don't leave it too late'."
news.bbc.co.uk
 

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Login to find out (September 18, 2005 at 8:11am)
LOL @ Mega. One of the best reasons ive heard for not having babies too late in life :D
 
Login to find out (September 18, 2005 at 2:01am)
HaHaHaHa Thats toooo funnny!
 
Login to find out (September 18, 2005 at 12:24am)
With all the new technology regarding fertility, a 65 year old woman was able to give birth to a baby recently. When she was discharged from the hospital and went home, her relatives came to visit.

"May we see the new baby?" one asked.

"Not yet," said the mother. "I'll make coffee and we can visit for awhile first."

Thirty minutes had passed, and another relative asked, "May we see the new baby now?"

"No, not yet," said the mother.

After another few minutes had elapsed, they asked again, "May we see the baby now?"

"No, not yet," replied the mother.

Growing very impatient, they asked, "Well,when CAN we see the baby?"

"When he cries!" she told them.

"When he cries?" they demanded.

"Why do we have to wait until he cries?"

"Because," she said, "I forgot where I put him..."
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 11:42pm)
Saha I took Courses in College for Teachers in the Field working with Autism. (BA Degree)
In our class studies these are the figures that were given to us.

I am Familiar with ABA...Those may also be right.

This is just what we discussed and what info I got from the Professor, and also Videos we watched on the subject matter.
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 11:33pm)
sorry labs. :) gotcha now ;)
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 12:32pm)
Whoa - a little bit too enthusiastic with the figures there, Mila! That's a third of the population! The official figures (from the ABA) is that autism occurs in 1 in every 500 births and in a rate of 5 boys to every girl. But the incidence of autism has seen a sharp rise especially (for some reason) in the UK...
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 12:17pm)
MILA how many facts do u pull outta ur A$$ :P
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 11:16am)
Many women have children later in there 30's on.
Many women are having children later these days because they are career driven.

However, there is a High Risk of complications, Many Women who have children late...After mid 30's have complications.

1 out of every 3 babies born have Autism...this is a FACT not something I am pulling outta my A$$!

One of the cause to children being born with Autism is biological factors such as women having babies too late in age.

THIS also is a FACT not something I am pulling outta A$$!

Something to think about.
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 10:20am)
mega hmmmmm is not a comment

mystic, i am not advocating anyone rush into anything, just commenting on the fact that there are risks to delaying having kids (unnecessarily) which should be made clearer.. at present no one out of your family, friends, or doctors will admit to this, most of them may not even know it's a fact.
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 3:14am)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 7:21pm)
exactly.

take your feminist irritation elsewhere :P LOL just kidding,
we just talking friendly about women and the social pressure, no one is forcing anyone! YES! its true, im a muslim man and i am NOT forcing anyone anything! :( sttrange eh ?
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 7:15pm)
PS: I guess I didn't read this with the perception of putting it as 'good' or 'bad' either.
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 7:14pm)
Um...I don't think Labs was advocating anything per se. To post an article about the health risks of having children at an older age (imho) doesn't equate to 'rush out and have babies now'.
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 3:36pm)
so what are you advocating here? that women go have babies without being married? that they rush into marriages and then end up divorced, unhappy or abused? If the girl has not found mr right, and at 35 or so still wants to have kids... i dont see that as bad. it is more risky, but not "bad" at all. I agree that it is better to have kids before 30, but not everyone can! I just turned 27 on monday so I'm under your "cut" of the age of women that can respond... and i do want kids... i just want a loving husband first. i do not think that is irresponsible.

and by the way... MEN die younger than women... so maybe you should be attacking MEN who have kids in their 30's, 40's and into their 60's sometimes. they wait forever to settle down "having fun" because they do not, unlike women, have a "time frame" or a biological clock... then they are more likely to die on their kids (which was something someone said about older women having kids - that they will die on their kids)
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 8:34am)
these same women/couples pay a heavy price for such delays when they arent around to see their kid graduate from college -

plus, parenthood can be tough when you are 45-50 years old and you have a spruntly lil one scurrying around the house .. and you are huffing and puffing trying to keep up :P
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 8:22am)
dinkie is a brit acronym in the same vein as yuppie: (young, upwardly mobile, professional dinkie = double income, no kids (ie. professional couples who choose not to have kids).
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 6:57am)
FON: No problem hun! Poo on Naseeb for your e-mail woes!

LABS: Oh you are so right - I can think back to dinner parties and see it now, so sad. btw, what does 'dinkie' mean lol.

AFAQ: Um yeah, I'm an Amreekan hahaha :P
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 6:51am)
dang. i cant think of a reply!

LONG LIVE TSAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:(
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 6:48am)
Well, ideally I would think I'd mesh along better with Conservatives vs Liberals (faith wise), but in the region I'm at, the tending carries over politically as well. And, Conservatives that are Christian tend to be very right of center as well...and where I'm at, that tends to be rather anti-Islamic/pro-foreign policy that I don't care for much.

Here, Liberal isn't considered as much about 'changing' everything as it is not being as constrictive as Conservatives tend to be. One would think being a better follower of any faith would be ideal, but it doesn't quite play out that way. :(

(sorry to get a bit OT, btw!)
 
Login to find out (September 16, 2005 at 6:45am)
i don't know fon, i live in yorks. where having your kids and grandkids all living on the same hill/ valley is still emphasised, all the english couples i know in their 30's 40's, bar one have a string of kids/ kids on the way

although dinkies do exist

meechi, i agree - there are definitely desi women who look ridiculous cos they belong to the get married and have a kid but be bored by motherhood set (they're the ones whose kids you see at dinner parties beating up other kids while the woman looks away)