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Mu'awiyah & Yazid in Shia Books (shocking?)


(1) Hussein bin Ali (ra.) sends prayers of mercy on Mu'awiyah:

cover >>> www.wylsh.com
page >>> www.wylsh.com

(2) Mu'awiyah orders Yazid on Hussein: "keep aware of his relation to the Messenger of Allah (pbuh), and know, O son, that his father is better than yours, and his grandfather is better than yours, and his mother is better than yours"!!

cover >>> www.wylsh.com
page >>> www.wylsh.com

better translation later,
along with more scanned pages.

The funny thing is that..on the cover you see that the Shia editor of the book authenticated the book, so...his silence on these narrations (seen by the absence of any reference to endnoets or footnotes with superscripts embedded into the narration, shouldn't that mean he holds those narrations to be true????

but then,...wouldn't there be an unbelievable contradiction in Shia books??? How could such narrations be true (above) while in other books there is a completely different picture of what's between Ali and his Household and Mu'awiyah and his household??? Something is wrong. How do we know which narrations are right? SANAD (the chain of narrations, BOTH in Shia AND SUNNI books). That which is faulty should be rejected, and that which is 'golden' should be embraced!!!

Wake up, O Shia!!
 

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Login to find out (April 11, 2006 at 8:00pm)
that is the funny thing guys...I think they honestly hear propaganda from their imams or someone rather or read in some gay book that sunnis hate Ali, fatima, abbasids, etc etc...and people are actualyl dumb enough to believe that?...wallahi I have never ever heard any sunni in my life as much as say anything less than radeya Allahu 3anh about sayiidnda Ali.

Some people are absolutely clueless.
 
Login to find out (April 11, 2006 at 8:15am)
no point in writing to her, she's outta here.
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 10:16pm)
I'm glad we're removing the clowns from this village. Good riddance to MehanzMD, Khanaseeb, Demon_Soul, and the likes. Whoever will not respond well to what we bring will get the boot. Ahooee is kept because he's been reacting better to what we bring (though he's not responded to most posts, maybe don't know what to say). Anyways, there's always new stuff coming.

Lying Dimples, I'd never demean Sayyidah Fatimah (may Allah be pleased with her). Show me where I said anything about her!! Your books only do!!! Where are he Arabic reading Shia now to prove me wrong, huh??? You don't have any of your Arabic books at home, O Shia Arabs??? Then who does???? You seem to know our books more than you know urs!!!!! I bet you all heard of Saheeh Bukhari and Then I was Guided and the Murajaat and Peshawar Nights mroe than (if ever) u heard of Man La Yahdurhul Faqeeh, Behar al-Answar, Tafseer al-Ayyashi or Rijaal al-Kashi!!!

Fatimah She's the #1 women in all history. You just want to force us to believe the crap* u have in ur heads (that we hate ahlulbayt), but it's not gonna happen!! You people are soooo shocked that you can't prove to us that we hate Ali and Fatimah!! With all the internet websites out there..you can't bring ONE proof??? with over a billion Muslims writing and videotaping and and and...where are your websites from revealing our "hate" of ahlulbayt?? You're failing to bring anything compared to what I have been bringing here!! All you come with is presupposed ideas and misinterpretted verses and hadiths and ones cut out of larger hadiths or taken out of context or taken from history books which their writers (if Sunni) say the narrations are to be scrutinized by SCHOLARS (i.e. NOT SHIA! there are no scholars among you!).

Keep dreaming of the non-existent Nasibis among us, you'll never find them, meanwhile..we know who the Rafidhis are (rejectors of Deen).
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 4:48pm)
When the Prophet s.a.w. says something, that is narrated under so many chains and is a hadith saheeh, a little girl like you basically is here only to cause fitna by defying it. Good riddance.
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 1:43pm)
ha!.. we've heard it all.. there's alot of time spent on providing material to challenge your belief but you provide no constructive debate. So henceforth, all non sensible shias are out.. that goes for that idiot sharara82 or whatever her name is... GOOD BYE!
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 1:40pm)
kashmiran if you kick me out it will just prove that you are not open to what we have to say and basically will prove that sunni only want to hear what they want to hear and are not open to the truth...

so go kick me out..come on..ya know u wanna...
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 1:39pm)
I'll give you until you read this.. your remark was stupid and thus you're getting the boot
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 1:38pm)
and for your information Rasool Allah (SAW) never said these ppl are in ferdous..plz go make up some more lies!

You prob. think Muwaiya and Yazid are in heaven 2 and that Sadam Hussain should also be in heaven..after all these are your role models aren't they toba toba
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 1:38pm)
dimples?? I can't believe I forgot to kick you out..
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 1:36pm)
haha okay so now m in idiot..what's up with sunni ppl and the name callen..so basically silky worm can demean Fatima Zehra (SA) the keeper of the heaven - and he's revered by you but I can't call a spade a spade...

grow up The_keeper...fair is fair buddy!
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 11:58am)
well dimples, you decide, with stupid comments like that, you sure don't strike much ingenuity. When the Prophet s.a.w. says they are in ferdous, and you say they are hypocrites, you're the one that sounds like the idiot. I'll stick with my Prophet s.a.w's hadith.
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 9:02am)
oh no m I going to hell for this 2 (H)
 
Login to find out (April 10, 2006 at 7:00am)
wow...so now yuou guys feel the companions are hypocrites, a'oozo billah MINKUM.
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 8:27pm)
well even umar so many time acknowledged that if Imam Ali wasn't there how many times he himself (umar) would have been destroyed and then of course he goes and conspires against imam Ali..so hello hypocrites can say anything..I mean even Satan believes in God and acknowledges him and then goes around in his evil ways - misleading people and betraying God..

Kayna kuch hai, karna kuch aur..translation: It's one thing to say and another thing to do..
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 1:43pm)
ooooooh i get it......So mauwiyah, yazid, shimr, hurmula, and umr bin saad were all good guys! I knew they were goody happy after all. I gotta soft corner for those guys. They give you that warm fuzzy feeling.


One thing i dont believe about hazrratt mauwiyaha radhiiblis illa billa is that he could have said husayn's father is better than yazid's, dont you think hes exaggerating things like how the shia do?
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 1:22pm)
interesting stuff
 
Login to find out (April 9, 2006 at 12:22pm)
huh is it morning yet?

where's my coffee..i'm up i'm up!