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multiple gods in the quran?


going through the QUran and bible at the moment. Im sure theres a good explanation but wanted to know what everyone thought what the "we" refers to?:
Surat yusuf (joseph) 12. ayat 2.
"WE have sent it down as an arabic quran, in order that ye may learn wisdom"
 

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Login to find out (December 3, 2005 at 6:02am)
whip: nice one
 
Login to find out (December 2, 2005 at 10:40pm)
My biggest point on the quran in comparison to any other text is its logical validity.

The language of the quran is precise, and the exact grammatical construction of each and every sentence is such, that it leaves no self-contradictions in it - although on surface it does appear to be that way.

E.g. One verse says that islam is the only religion acceptable by God, and then another says that who ever, whether jew or christian will do good deeds, will be acceptable. So apparently that is a contradiction. But when you get down to the actual language, the exact statements are so precise, like legal fine print, that you see it actually has itself covered, and what appeared otherwise, is not actually any contradiction at all !

Being a fan of logic and scientific thought, that to me is the most impressive thing about the quran.
 
Login to find out (December 2, 2005 at 5:41pm)
whip: good point .. thats why i was asking ... there are definitely times when the quraan is full of 2/3/4 meanings beyond the ones we see ... intersting example about khizr... willlook out for it wheni get to that bit ... am doing research fort a comparative analysis i doing on teh quran and the bible ... what would be your biggest point you would like to raise on that if you had to?
 
Login to find out (December 2, 2005 at 5:31pm)
plato: bloody brits ... forget them ... those good for nothing tea drinking, bush loving, stif upper lip eastender!!! but the queen mum ... what a legend ... !!!
 
Login to find out (December 2, 2005 at 1:04pm)
yes, i believe so....

or maybe it was the last queen... the queen mum i believe she was called. there's brits on this site, we can ask them.
 
Login to find out (December 2, 2005 at 11:07am)
It is possible that it refers to multiple entities, without all of those entities necessarily being "gods". E.g. President bush saying "we sent our troops" means he and his cabinet or his government, but that doesn't mean everyone in his cabinet is a president just like him.

That God "delegates" his attributes on his creation is a known fact from elsewhere in the quran, so although we accept and do not question, chances are, there is a very deep, relevant meaning anytime the quran chooses to use "we" instead of I.

Another notable and very interesting use of we appears in Surah Kahf where Khizr declares that "I" decided to sink the boat, "We" decided to kill the child, and "Your loard" decided to fell the wall, but "I" did not do anything by my own accord !
 
Login to find out (December 2, 2005 at 4:51am)
plato: really ... the quen of england ...??? nice one .. but the thing im stilnot sure about is that this "we" business used to represent a more regale form of presenting yourself. but would god havebothered with these sort fo foibles. maybe he wanted to talk to us copletely in language we understod eternally (quran being timeless and all) maybe its got more to do with the 99 names of allah also - a reminder of his differning sides.
 
Login to find out (December 1, 2005 at 7:24pm)
the queen of england still does that...
 
Login to find out (December 1, 2005 at 10:56am)
thats what i thought. nice one.
 
Login to find out (December 1, 2005 at 10:04am)
The use of "we" in ancient texts is a function of the language and doesn't refer to multiple entities...it's just a formal way in which the author refers to themselves.