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Non-Profit Vs. Mission based


Since my last semester in 2004 at College I've been diligently (I do mean diligently) trying to start a non-for-profit corporation. I was inspired by the ideas 1) "just do it" and 2) "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

In any case College taught me that sometimes you just have to do things in order for them to get done..heck that makes sense to me!

So I started to work on it
www.orgsites.com

Now the dilemna my associates and I have struggled significantly with are the barriers that our beloved President Bush and Co. have placed on non-for-profit formation, IRS reporting, and compliance. The audits, reporting, and reviews alone cost me too much time and money. So I've reverted to a simple for-profit mission based, non 501(c)3.

Anyone have any suggestions for someone like me? Can I still sucessfully maintain an organization solely based on a mission statement and still look reliable or credible to the public? We have an open book policy.

We act as a management and marketing firm. We take donations and tell accountants to place it in their marketing budget. We also have developed investment opportunities that create return on investments in order to promote cash flow..sort of like a junk bond to help the community.

Any bright brothers or sisters please feel free to drop some knowledge. I think I've reached a burnout point.

patiently awaiting comments,

Reza500
 

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Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 9:49am)
i just found this village, so i know my comments are kinda late...

i think you can still remain credible with donors/the public, but the one problem i see is that as a non-501(c)3, you are at a disadvantage for grant funding since many grantmakers require that their receipients be 501(c)3's.

i did some grant writing at my last job before grad school and the we were able to swing it only because the org had a 501(c)3 branch, although overall the org was 501(c)4.

also, don't fall into the trap that most muslim orgs do of depending almost 100% on private donations. from my experience, it's a bad model for many reasons.
 
Login to find out (June 18, 2005 at 8:38am)
well regarding the grants it doesnt have to be government only, their are private foundations and corporations who also grant grants, especially in their line of work. About creating a steady cash flow to support the organization long term, one thing that most non profits do is raise money for an endownment (shockingly even some islamic organizations do this) that way the money is there for the organziations existence. Still of course one shouldnt put all their eggs in one basket meaning one should diversfy their investments but endownments are diffently one of those places. Best of luck though inshallah i hope it works out for ya. (laribagyrl-unfortunatly im not a primium member so i cant read your comments :(
 
Login to find out (June 8, 2005 at 12:03am)
Hmm this is true with privately held corporations. We are incorporated under the flag of Rooke Enterprises, Inc., an english corporation that originally supported our launch.

I was debating with the C.F.O. about using junk bond tactics for projects such as our Wi-fi network proposals as a way to generate steady income.

If we were a we could use government technology grants to fund such projects, but that still hasn't happened for others and they're on the Chamber of Commerce!

I'm stuck on creating a pool of money scheme- there has got to be a way for me to generate cashflow and revert the profits into an interesting barring fund somehow and then use those profits to fund the organization one project at a time.

In any case, moderns' comments and your appreciation is fuel for the next few months. Salam!
 
Login to find out (June 7, 2005 at 1:38pm)
Salaam alaykum Reza,

Wow! What a wonderful organization you have started!

I just finished my second year of college, so with that in mind, here is my advice.

As a privately held corporation, you can do whatever you want with the profits and/or donations. It is your choice, so long as you are privately held.

The only problem with being a non-501(c) is that the donations given to you are not tax-deductable. This will ultimately reduce the number and the amount of your donations.

Keep up the good work and the faith. All the best to you and your organization.

Maggie
 
Login to find out (May 31, 2005 at 10:01am)
ah i c, hmmmm i guess not every area is like the south where its southern hospitality is king meaning even if they dont like ya they are nice and helpful with info and ice tea :) well maybe its just houston that has so many non-profits with most being extremly helpful especially the universities alhamudiallah :) But for those not in H-Town I would suggest the United Way chapter closest to you as it is their job and really their mission to support non-profits with info and money (note money is not just given to everyone you have to apply and fufill all the requirements, etc.) and everyone United Way is different but they are in general a great resource, wa allah alim
 
Login to find out (May 28, 2005 at 12:10pm)
Good comments Modern...three W's nice! I actually went to U of I so yes I realize they have a great grad dept., but that doesn't mean they wanna help. Everybody has their own agenda and projects they've been working on since before I ever existed in their world. Thank you for all your comments on non-profit stuff all together really...Good job. = )
 
Login to find out (May 28, 2005 at 10:52am)
appolgize for type-os and missing words :(
 
Login to find out (May 28, 2005 at 10:51am)
Initial Boards and boards in general should be comprised of the three W's Workers, Wisdom, Wealth....Workers means people who will put in the time and effort to do the work that needs to get done to aid staff or board goals. Wisdom are your accountants, your lawyers, your management professionals, your PR/Marketing people, etc. people who have the professional knowledge that you need or have a connection to those that do that can deliever. Lastly Wealth, these is critical, they are people are wealthy or know people who are wealthy to help in fundraising and the like. Well I hope that has helped. I will try to come back a little later to make more comments if i can. Best of Luck
 
Login to find out (May 28, 2005 at 10:47am)
As far as the fiscal responsiblities that has always been there but it doesnt necessarly have to break you, one way to aid in resolving that matter is asking a CPA or Accountant in the community who wouldnt mind volunteering some time or even finding a trusted person with accounting talent to sit on your board that way if he/she cant do it they have friends who can, its all networking with ppl who believe in your mission, that is something that can work until your org becomes established to be able to afford an on staff accountant.
 
Login to find out (May 28, 2005 at 10:45am)
well i can tell you that being in Illinois gives you the upper hand as it is becoming one of the centers for non-profit sector research. The University of Illinois-Bloomington has a graduate program that is known nationally so that might be a place to start.