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Past?


Here's another interesting VE I found and nicked to discuss here... These are not my words.. I couldn't be bothered to change them!


I thought I'd start a new VE about this in response to a comment from another VE. I am really curious as to how pple can overlook the past, when it tells you a lot about their background, and this may impact their future practices. Certainly someone's social background and upbringing etc plays a big role into their future practices and habits may be hard to break. History may repeat itself.

In terms of the past history, it is a tough tough question about whether it matters or not, when considering someone for marriage. Sometimes past actions can reflect future actions. The question then comes up, as to what if they repented? Whether or not someone is truly repentful will only be known by Allah and the person. B/c I think most people would say they repented in order to pursue a new person. You may say that is btwn the person and Allah, but not so if you are going to marry that person and it may impact your relationship and family. For ex. people may say that they slept with many women but are repentful for each one, well then how come they slept with the next and the next one if each time they were repentful? unless of course they went thru some major turning point in their life after sleeping with all those women, then it is different. i have a tough time with pple saying they were always religiously conscious and practicing and then say that they've slept with many women. how do we reconcile that? When you're just starting to get to know someone and they say that they've been in a few intimate relationships -- perhaps that tells you how they've viewed women, or relationships or deen?

Tough one, b/c there are many variables and circumstances, and each person is different. But it comes down to the question of , doesn't the past concern you about the future? And also how can you assess whether someone has truly repented when it comes to marriage, as this can affect their future and you can't tell whether they are telling the truth sincerely?
 

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Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 5:38am)
begsy i'm fine girl! actually sahadat, i too would be a bit concerned if i was going now with someone as a first gf! i've gone far too ahead in my life to be going through all that again!
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 4:57am)
THE PAST MAKES OUR PRESENT AND OUR PRESENT DETERMINES OUR FUTURE,,,,,,,,, AS LONG AS YOUR LEARN FROM THE PAST AND TRY TO MOVE ON,,,,,I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A PARTNER WITH A PAST BUT WHOSE LEARNT AS I CAN'T STAND VIRGINS!!
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 4:55am)
Thats good to hear!..you don't often get asian guys saying that..glad your not the village virgin type..
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 4:54am)
I simply wouldn't even entertain the idea of a relationship with a girl who had had no previous relationships! She'd have no idea what relationships entail, the hard work they are, no idea of the level of commitment required - you get good at what you have experience in. Quite frankly, I would trust an experienced woman to know what she was getting into.
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 4:37am)
Hey Choti..how are you girl?
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 4:32am)
begsy.. good to see u again.. cant wait til sat either!.. i totally agree on your comment that someone with a colourful 'past' doesn't necessarily mean they can't be faithful in the future.. whats the point in being married otherwise??
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 4:29am)
To come back on Hamzamambo comment, what is so bad about still being a virgin at 30 ? I don't think it makes you more of a prude because you don't want to have sex. Truth is, it's not easy accepting that your partner had a past furthermore if it was a sexually active one. But we do live in a time and society that makes it almost compulsory to have sex in order to meet the norm. I have no regrets about my past relationships but do respect those who believe it is better no to get physical until they get married. Whether or not it'll an impact on their future life I do not know...
 
Login to find out (June 27, 2005 at 3:15am)
p.s Good to finally meet you too..
 
Login to find out (June 26, 2005 at 1:44pm)
Lets hope so!..Hey there Jamal..God!, how slow was I?
 
Login to find out (June 26, 2005 at 1:04pm)
Like everything else in life, I get better at relationships with each one. It's called learning. (BTW, good to see ya last night, Zee! My secret's out...!)
 
Login to find out (June 26, 2005 at 11:57am)
I think guys especially have lots of meaningless (or serious) relationships in their 20's..simply to fulfill the male need so to speak..but there comes a time when men and women both want to settle down and therefore search for 'the one'..in their late twenties or early thirties. I don't think having past relationships necessarily means you will carry on like that..A lot of people are hung up about their partners having previous relationships..its human nature, we should just learn to accept that we don't live in those times anymore..I am not saying its islamically correct (before someone throws a thesis at me) but I am just speaking according to the times we live in..As much as we would all like to believe Romeo and Juliet relationships still exist..the truth is they don't.
 
Login to find out (June 26, 2005 at 8:42am)
the past argument.. leaves me at a loss when i talk to guys (on the net) whose deal is 'i've had 3 english gf's.. and met one american via the net.. each relationship lasted a few years..' when asked why they're looking for an asian girl now they say 'i have done what i wanted when young and am ready to settle down a bit now'.. why do people expect to magically turn off their roving eye/ eye for english girls and assume they will be able to commit/ commit to an asian at that.. doesn't having lots of partners make it less likely / unlikely you would be able to settle down later on..
 
Login to find out (June 26, 2005 at 8:21am)
hmm. begsy i totally agree with you, but i have encountered virgin men and women who are like 30!! for real!! they act all prudish and virginal too and are kind of putt off by me (their loss) but they belong together. the rest of us mature and experience people belong with each other too. so it all works out.
 
Login to find out (June 26, 2005 at 5:11am)
I think we can all safely say that whoever we end up with in this day and age will have a past of some sort. Either you can be completely naive and believe sex before marriage doesn't exist or you just accept it and get on with our lives..There is no room for regrets. You learn from your mistakes so I don't think the past would affect my future intentions in a bad way. If anything it will make me stronger..
 
Login to find out (June 25, 2005 at 6:22pm)
Why should you repent if you slept with someone? What is so wrong with that? If instead of sleeping, you had sex... wouldn't that be worse? :)
 
Login to find out (June 25, 2005 at 10:33am)
i think we are who we are because of our past. obviously relationships have broken up for various reasons but that doesn't mean that either person is bad. it just means that they weren't suited for one another. its hard at the time of any break up. however, what i usually find is when i enter a new relationship, i try to do things slightly different which i believe can enhance a relationship...
 
Login to find out (June 25, 2005 at 10:30am)
you mean you haven't sat in the confession box yet?? tut tut!
 
Login to find out (June 25, 2005 at 7:38am)
What a terrible thing it is,to say that you're "repentful of your last relationship". I'd be disgusted with soemone who viewed a person and their intimate relationship as something to be 'repented'! How arrogant and dismissive... I've slept with several women and I'm repentant of none of them! They were all good people and the intimacy/desire was mutual. I do not repent - I celebrate!