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Shia, What IF Prophet Muhammad's Son "Ibrahim" Lived Longer???


Would he be the 'Imam'? Who will be those '12' Imams then you say are in our books? They will be his offspring? What will be Ali's role and Fatimah's, Hassan's and Hussein's, in such a scenario??? Wouldn't the 'caliphate' be in the offspring of Ibrahim ibn Muhammad then?

And his mother being Coptic, what would you imagine be the state of Egypt's Copts and Islam, if Hussein's marriage to a Persian emperor's daughter yielded that Shi'ism focus only on Hussein's offspring from that woman & completely ignore Hassan's??

And another question: why did you ignore Hassan & his offspring like that?

I'm telling you..its the Majoosi (Magian) Persian (Farsi) seed in Shi'ism, coupled with the Jewish one (about which there are so many proofs).

Shi'ism is a Jewish sect :) ------
 

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Login to find out (September 8, 2005 at 8:11am)
p.s. shiasm and judiasm??? thats all your ever gonna do mate, your ggonna be a text book hero, or now in the new age a website hero....i bet if u found a wahabi site online stating that shias turn into warewolves at the strike of midnight, youd probably believe it.
 
Login to find out (September 8, 2005 at 8:07am)
Silkysword, honestly mate put your sword back in yer sheath. You aint cuttin no holes here tonite, wont happen tomorrow nor will u succeed in yer life time. Cant u see we are a product of the Ahlul Bayt who suffered from men like you with their dynasties, kingdoms and heavens on earth. Cant u see for 1400 years, the enemies of the shia have never been successful to side track us, to divert us from the truth, to run us off the steam engine.....dude we are here to stay....and we grow grow grow grow....in fact we are a minority and yet we stand taller then your predecessors and yourselves.

What are these crazy questions your asking....IF IF IF IF. Let me ask u some questions, what if God made Bob the builder a Prophet???? What if the Prophet appointed Valid the drunk a successor, what if i am sharon and your Linda, etc etc etc

How can u question what was divinely appointed. Can you question the legitimacy of Prophet Muhammed being a prophet? Ofcourse u cant because Allah knows best. Remember the Quran confirms the Prophet is a revelation to mankind, he does not err, nor does he wander. Clearly this verse outlines anything he suggests or does, is instructed by Allah. So if He (saw) confirmed there will be 12 Imams (commanders/alul-amr) then so be it.

I think your problem is, you use your brain too much, nothing comes out of it....put it to rest dude
 
Login to find out (September 6, 2005 at 10:14am)
And furthermore, why some people are so concerned about others this much? Why can?t they just live their lives and let the others do the same as long as they don?t cross the fundamentals of reason and Islam? You see people, many people just start to hate Islam (and they are Muslims) because of these topics. I mean, what do you care of someone believed that there are 12 men after the Prophet who actually support Islam? Or who would care of some other people believed of 10 people who were friends of the Prophet and they are going to heaven by certainty?

Damn people, other nation are getting way ahead of us and we still fight for a stupid details before 1400 years ago, and all of those why fight for are dead and went to their God and Allah will judge them.
 
Login to find out (September 6, 2005 at 10:04am)
You have "too" many IFs and that showes that you don't understand how Shia think. They think that "Imamah" is not for the Prophet's relatives, but to some people who are chosen.

And if you agree over that, then we can talk in someother topic.
 
Login to find out (September 4, 2005 at 9:50pm)
up! where art thou, Shi'ites?? lol