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Login to find out (May 3, 2006 at 8:33pm)

hahah cool.

Login to find out (May 3, 2006 at 1:02am)

Great clip: Palestinian HIPHOP "Who's the Terrorist"

The introduction is by former U.S. Attorney General, Ramsey Clark...

The rest of the clip speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSVXjNLFgo& search=arabic%20music

Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 11:51pm)

look at the egyptian singer sha3ban 3abdil rahim, he was straight from the slums of egypt, he was a makwagee, or had a business where he'd iron clothes (not be mistaken with dry cleaning), and not only did he not have a normal, electric powered iron, he one that you heat up the bottom, and you lay the peice of clothing on the ground, and actually run this thing like a skateboard over it, it's weird, but that is like the ultimate sign of being broke in egypt, so anyways this guy starts singing, now he actually makes some good sense, he calls people out on his songs, most famous is "ana bakrah israel" or "i hate israel", but if you look at him now, he can't read or write. and neither does he let his kids read or write because it's "in-decent of them to be more educated than their dad" so he lets his errand boy read the paper for him, and if you see him on TV, he's got more gold on than some rappers in the US got, money talks people, i think i'm a pretty grounded person, i would like to say moeny won't change me, but theres no telling what would happen if someone waves 1 mil in my face, and i think that would go for everybody, only time will tell what way they go

Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 2:07pm)

This is hot!

Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 7:01am)

T3mah, I'm not disagreeing that this may be their motive now (and Allah knows better of their intentions of course), however, when you live under opprerssion and poor conditions as bad as they do, and suddenly this fame comes out of nowhere, that's the other factor nobody is looking at. It';s easy for us to say, oh if I became famous or had more money, we'd be fine. It's because on the most part most of us ARE already well off or fine as we are. But to go from extremely poor and never heard of to suddenly rich and famous...people don;t know how to handle that. And again, maybe part of their message should be to keep our identity and reflect on the fact that if this IS their intention, then they should say, never change yourself from being palestinian, this isnt to change our behaviour or our tradition, but to convey this message solely.

Login to find out (March 31, 2006 at 12:52am)

Keeper, I don't think these kids will take an identity of anyone else than Palestinain. The whole idea behind them raping is to connect and express themselves as Palestinian not Israile. They want to reject the forced identity they have and want to be united with other young ppl around them inside Palestine.

Login to find out (March 30, 2006 at 11:08pm)

I highly doubt that Arab rappers will ever be commercially famous, so I wouldn't worry too much about them veering toward a path of greed and temptations.

And if one or all of these rappers become famous, I think you all should listen to Outlandish...it's a rap group made up of a Moroccan, Pakistani, and a Hispanic....they are HUGE in Europe yet two of the members are devout Muslims and use their fame and money to do a lot for the Muslim community.

Login to find out (March 30, 2006 at 8:33pm)

i'd say i'd stick beside them, i always wondered what raping in arabic would sound like, i thought cheezy to begin with lol, but i don't think it looks too bad now, i'd give them my vote of support, but i'd still be wary, not about their morals yassy_f, but what it turns them into, people in the mid 80's might have said snoop dogg was a hero, reppin the streets, but look at him now? money does that to people, you can look at all arab singers for that matter, look what their like, enough said, i do like what they do, but the path that they go down can easily be veered off of, let's hope for the best that they get their word out non-violently inshallah

Login to find out (March 30, 2006 at 6:57am)

Izzy, thanks for the insight, and that IS the general idea that people get from rap when you look anywhere else, you see what happens.

I'll put myself in one of this kids shoes...ya let's use this snoop dog method to get attention of the peoople...let's send the message about thew oppression in palestine...."

then all of a sudden, someone enrages these kids, what do they do?..."hey what would our role model snoop dog do?"...ya he collects gangs, he buys guns with that money, has people wreaking havoc, shoot kill destroy....back to square one, but now they give Israel another angle....what will they say..."they are no better than the gangs in America...see?...here is your palestinians, we told you so, we have every right and even more to shoot and kill these kids now"....

It's refreshing that Izzay and Alia are actually looking into the future and concerned about these kids taking on an identity which I don't think may necessarily be positive in the end for them. God bless them and guide them and all of us so we don't fall into the wrong.

Login to find out (March 30, 2006 at 3:21am)

NICE!
I like it and I think it is so creative because it is different and fresh!

I think it will click with the young ppl internationally as the idea represents a popular form of art, Rap, which is mainly known for its revolutionary characteristics.

Thanks so much for this mama/odss :)

Login to find out (March 30, 2006 at 12:02am)

I think what these young people are doing is really positive. I mean instead of filling the stereotype of young Palestinians created by yahood and the rest of the world, they are doing something different. These talented Muslims are using music as their outlet for anger and pain.

I think we should all commend them....instead of questioning their morals, beliefs or intentions.

Login to find out (March 29, 2006 at 11:20pm)

Mamaghanoge, i don't think anyone here is really saying they should stop because it's indecent or what not, i personally like what their doing and i think it's a fresh look, maybe people will take notice and say "maybe there is something wrong in israel....", the concern is that what if these peoples fame and stardom turns into greed or preach corruption? rap originated in the early eighties, it originally started out with what's going during that time period, spread of a relatively new disease called AIDS, the violent slums, introduction to crack cocaine, prostitution, attempting to get attention to thier troubles and get people to see what's going on, eventually it turned gang related, one of the founders of the crypts (it may have been the bloods gang, not sure though) gang was named calvin broadus, as we all know as snoop dogg, the other founder of crypts, known as tookie williams, was recently executed for killing 4 convience store workers back in the early 90's i belive, so we all see the complete change in messages, we all know what snoop raps about now, so look where he started and look where he's at, that's currently the fear, it's a similar situation between the 2, both trying to get attention to thier respective situation, only in southern LA, drugs and violence infested the streets, and Compton LA is one of the most dangerous cities in the country, only behind detriot and Camden New jersey, i think that'd be my concern with the way that they take and where do they go when they gain noteriety, it's not thier start, it's thier end that's raises eye brows

Login to find out (March 29, 2006 at 4:16pm)

Thanks Alia, I'm glad you understand...it is one thing to make fun of people for their behaviour or condescend to them (neither which I am tryignt o do, with neither races for that matter), but it is different to be concerned about your own people and speaking out of goodwill and concern for their wellbeing.

And definitely I am talking about the ghetto style, general result of "success" the ones that are in fame are portraying. How many of those "role models" we see on tv and listen to on radio only rap about good topics and have good behaviour and characteristics. It scares me when anyone takes those as their role models....especially my own people.

Login to find out (March 29, 2006 at 2:48pm)

Being Black and being Godless hedonists are two different things. I don't think that Keeper is try to absolutely equate the two, but for the record not all (or even the majority) of Black people live as portrayed. Just as arab sterotypes are ludacrous, so are those about Blacks. As for what is said by people who know Black people by virtue of setting up liquor stores in the ghetto or Black who move to the Middle East and eschew all things Western, I have only two words---sample bias.

Login to find out (March 29, 2006 at 7:03am)

Anyway like I said before, Allah yihdeehin o yihdeena jamee3an. It's going to take a lot to get this land back, as far as I'm concerned, there is a lot of work to be done, but it starts with us. Our people will only keep getting beat up until enough people wake up and do something.

Login to find out (March 29, 2006 at 7:01am)

Muslim_sista, I didnt imply their kufr, nor anything otherwise, when you're in this country I can see you getting mixed into the culture and start possibly wrapping or doing things, does it make it right? Who is to say, I am just disturbed that it has to be carried over there where we have a culture and a way of life (should be an islamic one immitating our own role models rather othan ones of a different society altogether). Hey, can you imagine everyone over there becomes like that?...oh well, so much for our tradition huh?

I just worried when I saw that type of behaviour carried over there, and just because I don't blindly look at it and go "wowww, cooool" and because I am emotional about my people, that shouldn't put a label on me as some may have already. People express their concern in different ways. If some people choose to use other societies and peoples' methods to express themselves, then they can suit themselves.

Izzy, I wish you the best of luck bro, but you can see where I'm coming from because you know how hard it is to keep that type of stuff clean. When a person tries desperately to behave like something they're not, they may go the wholoe 9 yards for sure. Anyway, I don't expect them to show that even if they DID, it is the "shu3la" after all. Just a strange innovation to it that's all.

Login to find out (March 28, 2006 at 8:58pm)

:# hummm its useless for me to argue... u know what...if anyone doesn't appreciate whats shown above then skip this posting and move on... definatly there z more in this life to argue over than destroying "sho3la" --flame of hope-- that these artists/youngsters are trying to start.

Login to find out (March 28, 2006 at 8:48pm)

yeah it would be the best personality to emulate, but how many people in history have been able ot do that? salah el dinn and a few others, and not saying it's something we shouldn't strive for, but those are some massive shoes to fill, so that may be a reason why they tried a differnt approach, and if anyone hasn't noticed, i am a big rap fan lol, and i see exactly when people deviate from thier true message of what their tyring to say or accomplish, that's when they go mainstream, that's when thier carerr goes down hill, i liked alot of rappers in thier early days, when they said it like it is, but once they got that fame, all of a sudden they live in the club, have 90,000 women, and 20,000 cars, it's when things turned fake, when those guys are actually owned by the record labels, and really don't get too much back, that's why they go and create thier own labels, and the cycle continues, so hopefully these guys and girls stay true to the game and stay the course, because that's when they lose people's respect and faith, and inshallah in the end it brings about change for the better

Login to find out (March 28, 2006 at 4:55pm)

I pray for these kind of kids that they DONt deviate and it just scares me when they have to portray themselves as something besides their own culture to send their message...you know?....it IS the whole nine yards that worries me. I would rather see someone else copy our behaviour or hey, if people tried to copy the behaviour of the Prophet s.a.w. and his personality, wouldnt that be the best personality to imitate?

Login to find out (March 28, 2006 at 4:52pm)

oh absolutely, hey I say Allah yihdeehin....others would say a lot worse, I'm getting the wrath for feeling bad for them here...ahaha

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