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The Arab Woman?and the Western Male


Written by khatlo: Anne Turner Bruno

There is an old Arab proverb, "It is better to eat your own barley than to buy foreign wheat," but when it comes to Arab women a lot of men disagree.


Not everyone would go as far as one American free-lance writer who proclaims forcefully that the Arab woman is "one vastly superior creature," but then not everyone has a wife to match his: a handsome, stylish, intelligent woman who has two children, speaks three languages, edits several publications, serves as a board member of a worldwide organization and has traveled throughout Europe and America.


Such women?usually well-to-do and products of European and American educations?are by no means the norm in the Middle East, but neither are they rare. Western men who have married them praise them lavishly. Such girls, they say, combine beauty and sophistication with a very eastern desire to please her man.


Many western men not married to Arab women find them alluring. Some rave about the charm of girls who are naturally exotic, boldly stylish yet genuinely shy and even innocent. One man says that as soon as the Arab woman discovers dieting her beauty will explode on the international scene the way once equally robust Italian and German beauties did during the lean years after World War II.


The single man in the Arab East is less enthusiastic. He does say that the educated, westernized Arab girl is often more attractive, usually more sophisticated and always better dressed than most American girls, but adds wistfully that it is almost impossible to meet and get to know them. One American bachelor who worked in the Middle East for 10 years says of the Arab women he meets at diplomatic functions and dinners in Cairo, Beirut and Amman: "Generally the wealthy, upper class women are de-tribalized as a result of education and travel, but when you drop down the social ladder, it is almost impossible to meet the average Arab woman. And even with the upper class, there is a conservative streak. The old families invite you to tea, cocktails and dinner, but you can never invite their daughter out to dinner after dark. They stay close to daddy and the hearth after dark."


A British newspaperman in his early thirties, who covers the Middle East for a news agency, agrees. "If a girl takes her family seriously, one can't really talk to her, get to know her, at any length. In any possible friendship, there is a tension, not the relaxed atmosphere as with a western girl in London. One never gets close enough to know any of them?except those who have trained or lived in Europe. It is a shame. The women of Lebanon and Egypt are so beautiful, but you cannot get to know them."


John Riddle, a forthright, 22-year-old American photographer, who studied Islamic history and culture in the United States and Lebanon, dated an Arab girl every day, but usually at her family's.


"The principal problem for a girl dating a westerner is that of reputation and family honor," Mr. Riddle says. "The family is closer and worries more about her. They want to know exactly what a man is doing here and how much money he is making." One girl, he said, was so close to her family that she told a suitor "I don't know if I should marry you or not. I don't want to leave my brothers and sisters." One point most western men agree on is that Arab girls are more feminine than American and English girls. "I admit I am annoyed at not being able to see girls alone," says an American diplomat, "but I never see an Arab girl in curlers either."


Bob Smith, an Arabic language student at the American University of Cairo, likes Arab women for their more feminine attitude and appearance, but adds that sometimes an Arab girl's sub-missiveness may have an element of deceit in it because she plans to rule the man indirectly later. Students he knows have an "illusory attitude toward love," he says. "They see someone and stare across a room and think they are in love, but it is not a sustained emotion. And with this over-romanticism, their parents force a materialistic preoccupation which favors older, financially-established men. They have marriage on their minds, but also are in confusion as to their role and relationship with men." He concurs with American girl students at AUC that Arab girls of 18 are not as emotionally mature as his sister citizens.


Some western males remark that though the Arab woman is initially more exotic than a western woman, her interests and personality are shallow and in a sustained relationship she is less intriguing. Her lack of casualness and flexibility, they say, prevents her from wearing well. They feel that while a submissive attitude may make a man feel more masculine at first, after a long time flattery can be cloying.


All Arab girls, of course, are, ecstatically happy about being married to western husbands, all of whom are handsome, intelligent, urbane, kind, loving, generous and considerate. I know they are because their husbands told me so.
 

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Login to find out (July 31, 2005 at 9:48pm)
LOL there is INDEED!
 
Login to find out (July 31, 2005 at 7:03pm)
there's always michael hung to replace him
 
Login to find out (July 30, 2005 at 5:12am)
so all that time when people thought Ricky disapeared somewhere... he was kicking it with Lateefa!!!

I don't think he'll ever get a taste of the real falafel... it's too spicy for a latino
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 6:12pm)
caarbguy, i wasnt directing my comment toward you or anyone in particular, just stating my opinion :)
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 6:12pm)
Wanna be Arab man....hum view the pictures: www.arab2000.net cid=6
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 3:26pm)
oh no he didN'T!!!

any ways,
todays lessons are:
1) can't reach the grape so they say it's sour.
2) 3aloush is a "cling" magnet P: P: P: :P
it's what's 'maktoob' don't fight it hahha
" irda b-nnaseeb... terta7 bil7abib"
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 3:25pm)
what Ali meant to say was .."if properly rained on .." :#
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 2:47pm)
lollllllllllllllllllllll Ali, you are on your own on that one...lollllllllllllll too funny......
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 2:33pm)
"trained" oh Ali you are in big trouble with the ladies *:
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 2:30pm)
over-romanticism: Arab girls in the east fall crazy in love with the first guy they get to sit with. They can squeeze the breath out of the guy they marry with their clingy tendancies. But, they can change and adapt to a new western environment if properly trained. Just think..My Fair Lady.
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 1:28pm)
Salam, if you mean to direct your criticism at me I must ask you to go back and read my comment again as I said many not all snif snif :( j/k


Like you said it all depends but I can tell you things are changing fast back in the Arab world and the western influence is catching up fast with Arab women more so than with those who live in North America and those born here probably because they don't take religion for granted.
 
Login to find out (July 29, 2005 at 5:08am)
I think it depends on what type of town/city you are from, for you to say grls are 'generally' more conservative there or not. Being from a small town, I see grls more conservaive in banyas, syria then here. But then again, I've been to larger cities and met grls here that are from other countries and cities that tell me they find it more conservative here than there.

I've seen families there that take Islamic society for granted and their children don't know much about 'why' they are doing things. As I also met ppl that are very well knowledgable, mashAllah. I also met ppl here that allow their children to 'go with the flow', so to speak, and their children are basically Muslim 'by name'. As I also have seen families that keep up with their children as so they do not fall prey to western society and understand the details of Islam, not just basic concepts.

So, all in all, I believe its hard to generalize such as opinion.
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 11:59pm)
"before they may have sung in palaces, and stripped in royal bedrooms" l ooollllllllllllll plato this is too funny. I don't know if it is true but I can believe it, it can happen lol
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 11:55pm)
I agree with Omar 100%... and it's scary!
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 7:52pm)
Yes Omar from personal experience it is
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 4:18pm)
lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ll that is too funny..... So what you are saying is that we are now "in" and a hot commodity in the Gay community?...lolllllllllllllllllll ewwwwwww....


Western women are definitely more conservative than girls that live in the arab world....... it seems that the arab world is trying to become more western.... and they over do things sometimes, thinking that we are all partying 24/7..... which is probably why I have seen people living in the arab world are more "open" (for a lack of better word).... One of my friends started praying when he came to Canada.... his friends laughted at him when he called home and told them he started to pray..... some people are saying that Iman is stronger in the west than it is back home.... I don't know if that is true? Any ideas......
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 2:06pm)
i was once told by a gay kid in college that arab boys are hot cause they are macho without thinking about it, have deep olive colored skin and steely eyes.


yes, i do believe he was hitting on me, but it was nice to be complimented.

i wonder if all gays agree? you think they did a poll on all gay western men asking about us arab fellas, the way they did one with most western men asking about arab girls femininity?


unthinkingly macho, olive skin, steely eyes.

yeah baby.
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 2:00pm)
." One point most western men agree on is that Arab girls are more feminine than American and English girls. "

------------------------- I guess i missed the day they took that poll....

or maybe they skipped over me cause i'm not a western man?


it was probably that teusday in february when my phones went down and i was in bed with a migrane.....
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 1:57pm)
it's all a mater of perspective. i've heard the exact opposite.
but being conservative or liberal is not all encompasing. some things, even conservative muslim-arab women in the US do and take entirely for granted.
while women, liberal ones, in the arab world, would not even dream of doing.

people tend to focus on whatever interests them, the big picture is often missed.
 
Login to find out (July 28, 2005 at 1:31pm)
Laila I do agree that Muslim Arab women in the US have it much harder. It all comes down to trust, priorities and faith. Arab American dads and moms should trust their daughters more, give them the benefit of the doubt and provide a breathing space it is only fair they shouldn't just assume that their daughters will let go of their religion, culture and values. If they feel comfortable that they did their best raising their daughters they should trust them and let them be.

I too have a similar experience with a gal who moved to the states from Amman. She told me that she was shocked at how liberal the girls back in Amman compared to those who were born and raised in the states. She told more things too that I can't write here.