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tricky wudu question


you have two bottles of identical looking water and one of them is impure and the other is purifying and you don't know which one is which. The time for salat has arrived and you need to make wudu, what do you do?
 

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Login to find out (April 28, 2006 at 9:21am)
as-salaamu alaykum ya moniker,

hi, i'm new to naseeb and was recommended to here. for these fiqh questions. a good resource is "fiqh-us-sunnah" by Sheikh Sayyid Sabiq. Some of it is available online at www.islamalways.com. Tahara (purification) is one of those. It states the following,
"001 : 1.003A : Water mixed with impure elements.

We can divide this category into two sub-categories:

1. The impure substance alters the taste, colour or odour of the water. In this case, it can not be used for purification. According to Ibn al-Munzhir and Ibn al-Mulaqqin, there is a consensus on this point.

2. The liquid is still considered water, meaning that the impure substance has not altered its taste, colour or odour. Such water is considered pure and may be used for purification. This is based upon the following hadith: Abu Hurairah reported that a bedouin urinated in the mosque. The people stood to get him (and stop him). The Prophet said, "Leave him and pour a bucket of water or a container of water over his urine. You have been raised to be easy on the people, not to be hard on them." This hadith is narrated by "the group," except for Muslim.

Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri asked the Prophet, "Can we make ablution from the well of Buda'ah (i.e., a well in Madinah)?" The Prophet, upon whom be peace, told him, "Water is pure and nothing makes it impure."

This hadith is related by Ahmad, ash-Shaf'i, Abu Dawud, anNasa'i and at-Tirmizhi, who classified it as hassan. Ahmad said, "This hadith is sahih and Yahya ibn Ma'een and Muhammad ibn Hazm classified it as such." This is also the opinion of Ibn 'Abbas, Abu Hurairah, al-Hassan al-Basri, Ibn al-Musayyab, 'Ikrimah, Ibn Abu Laila, al-Thauri, Dawud azh-Zhahiri, an-Nakha'i, Malik and others. Says al-Ghazzali, "I wish ash-Shaf'i's opinion was like Malik's."

There is also a hadith from 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar in which the Messenger of Allah is reported to have said, "If there are at least two buckets of water, it will not carry any impurity." This hadith is related by the "five." However, this hadith is muzhtarab in its chain of narrators and text. Ibn 'Abdul-Barr said in at-Tamheed, "As to the opinion of ash-Shaf'i which is based on this hadith, it is weak on scrutiny and is not confirmed by historical reports."

So, unless the impurity is evident by the senses or other wise known by certain knowledge, either bottle is acceptable for wudu. If you know that there is najas in one bottle but cannot see, smell or taste it, the water is considered pure for ablution. Allah (swt) has made this deen easy on us.
 
Login to find out (March 16, 2006 at 12:18am)
#: good question! and it makes sense too, at least one of them will count :D


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Login to find out (March 15, 2006 at 11:46pm)
you make wudu with the first bottle and then make salat.

then you make wudu with the second bottle and then make salat a second time.

one of them counts, one of them does not, but the important thing is that you did your salat properly once.

this is an exception to the usual rule that you do not pray your salat twice.

good guesses though! salam
 
Login to find out (March 15, 2006 at 8:42pm)
NEVER!!!!! :D );

kidding, I give up. What's the answer?

Peace
 
Login to find out (March 14, 2006 at 10:09pm)
you have water! one of the conditions of tayammum is that you don't have any water after seeking it or that if you find it you have great difficulty like boiling or freezing water.... this does not qualify.

tayammum is not the answer.. let me know if you give up :)
 
Login to find out (March 14, 2006 at 9:43pm)
make tayammum?


Peace
 
Login to find out (March 13, 2006 at 1:02pm)
no, you don't know and can't tell which one has the impurity and which one does not..

I think i see where you are going with this, so let me say that one of them has najas in it and the other does not. This isn't about color or smell.
 
Login to find out (March 12, 2006 at 2:52am)
is there a smell?


Peace
 
Login to find out (March 10, 2006 at 6:40pm)
by the way, I have the answer