don't know about that!!

WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHANGE NOW, SAVE ALL THE GRIEF YOUR GONNA GET LATER??

"AND IN THE COFFIN WILL BE GIVEN ONE MORE CHANCE TO CHANGE AND COME TO ISLAM!!"

Will Ismailis also be given another chance in the coffin?

WELL THESE FIGURES I QUOTED ARE CORRECT!!

A NON-MUSLIM WHO COMMITS SHIRK IS NOT PERMITTED TO HEAVEN.

ONLY PEOPLE WHO AGREE THAT.
1)THERE IS ONE GOD AND MUHAMMED(PBUH) IS HIS MESSENGER!!
2)PEOPLE WHO BELIEV THAT GOG IS IN NO FORM
3)PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN JUDGEMENT DAY!!!

NON-MUSLIMS WHO ARE GOOD PEOPLE, WILL E REWARDED FOR THEY GOOD WORK. AND IN THE COFFIN WILL BE GIVEN ONE MORE CHANCE TO CHANGE AND COME TO ISLAM!!

And yes -

HasanDaddy does find your math to be funny

However, HasanDaddy has worked as a public school teacher in Los Angeles

therefore, HasanDaddy has Sadka-Capital ----- so SPEND AWAY, HASANDADDY!!!!

The Quran mentions people of other faiths

I can't quote exactly, but it does say that Non-Muslims will enter Heaven, as long as they satisfy the following pretenses -

1. He/She is faithful to whatever faith they have chosen to ascribe themselves to

2. He/She is BENEFICIAL to humanity

under those conditions, anyone can gain acceptance into Heaven

this idea that only Muslims go to Heaven is completely wrong

OK, LET ME AT PERCENTAGE DO YOU THINK THAT MUSLIMS WILL BE ENTERING HEAVEN, MORE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IN HELL THEN HEAVEN!!
THE FIGURE I QUOTED YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF SOMEDAY!!!

ABOUT HINDU/SIKH, WHEN ANY BABY IS BORN, IT IS BORN A MUSLIM AT A CERTAIN AGE IT LEARNS RIGHT/WRONG AND RELIGION, AT THIS STAGE THAT CHILD CAN BE COMMITTING A SHIRRK OR BE ON THE RIGHT PATH!!
NOW A HINDU/SIKH ON JUDGEMENT DAY WILL BE ANSWERABLE FOR EVERYTHING, BUT AS YOU PEOPLE BEING MUSLIM HAVE NOT TRIED TO TEACH THEM ISLAM OR GIVEN THEN ISLAM, ALLAH WILL ASK YOU!!!

ABOUT DOCTORS/NURSES AND HELL!!!
WHEN A PERSON BECOMES A DOC, NURSE, CARER, TEACHER OR WORKS IN A POSITION WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING AFTER ANOTHER PERSON, THIS IS A TYPE OF CHARITY (SADKA) GIVEN BY THAT PERSON!!

ON JUDGEMENT DAY ALL YOUR SINS, GOOD DEEDS WILL BE CALCULATED, YOUR PRAYS, CHARITY EVERYTHING YOU DID/DIDN'T DO!!!
THEN ONLY HEAVEN/HELL WILL BE GIVEN, SAY YOU UPSET SOMEONE, ON JUDGEMENT DAY THEY CAN ASK FOR YOUR GOOD DEEDS BEFORE YOU ENTER HEAVEN/HELL!!!

GOING BACK TO THE FIGURE I QUOTED; HASANDADDY FIND IT FUNNY!!!
OK LOOK AT THE MUSLIMS TODAY, NEARLY ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES/PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING, BUT STILL HOW MANY OF THEM PRAY 5X A DAY, DONT FIGHT, DNT BACKBITE, DNT DO ANYTHING SILLY AND UNISLAMIC, I'M REFERRING TO BOTH SHIA/SUNNI AND ALL OTHER TYPES THAT CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIMS??????

Interesting. Miss London and SilkySword make a good team.

MISSLONDON: Exactly where did you get those 999-1 figures from? I have a couple of good Hindu friends... HasanDaddy is right... We can answer their questions and give them further information about our deen. However, if they do not display curiosity, then you have to respect that as their choice. I don't see how we could bear the brunt of any blame for that. Our job is to teach by EXAMPLE i.e. intentions, words and actions, as opposed to employing the subtlety of a red hot vindaloo... Two of my best friends gave up alcohol partially because they saw the benefits of being teetotal, in me...

There was a well-known occurrence of an old lady throwing rubbish on the Prophet (pbuh) and cursing him. One day, when she was not present, the Prophet (pbuh) asked the locals about her and discovered that she was sick. He went to visit her, and after witnessing such kindness from him, that lady converted to Islam. Muhammad (pbuh) enjoined to treat everyone with decency and good manners, even the infidels of Mecca, who were his worst enemies. Later, they also converted of their OWN free will :)

The message? Aggressive dawah work is counter-productive in nearly all cases.

Silkyword: I hope in the world you find some degree of peace in your heart rather than hatered.

And who restrain (their) anger, and forgive (the faults of) men; for God loves those who do good (to others). Holy Qur'an, ch. Aale I?mraan (3), vs. 134.

If I or any Shia has done something wrong in the eyes of Allah(swt) then I pray that he bestows his mercy on us and if you or any Sunni has done something wrong in the eyes of Allah(swt) then I pray that he bestows his mercy on you. At the end of the day we are all His servant.

okay --- I should relent a little

it's not cool of me to come down hard on MissLondon like that

yeah - we disagree - but I don't want you to feel disrespected, Laila ----- you're being very honest in your beliefs and opinions, and I celebrate that

so --- please forgive my aggressive language for you --- just take away the opinion, not the tone --- hope all is well with you and peace and love!

or, let's put it in other terms ---

let's say that Wahabbis are actually right, and entrance into Heaven, indeed, is predicated upon how much of a religious zealot one can be, in addition to being mindful of stupid, ticky-tack, stuff

at that point, anyone who finds peace in most all religions is now subjected to Hell

all gay men and women are now subjected to hell

all the good Doctors and healers on this planet now, suddenly inherit Hell, simply because they weren't close minded enough to denounce other religions

Suddenly, Heaven becomes a community with a bunch of ranting, racist, sexist, homo-phobic, Wahabbis

While Hell is full of very good doctors, peaceful people, and non-confrontational gay people

if you Whabbi folk are, indeed, correct, then please send me to Hell on Judgement Day

"FROM EVERY 1000TH MUSLIM, 999 IS GOING TO HELL AND ONLY 1 TO HEAVEN!!!"

sorry dude - but that one deserves a big fat LOL!!!!

"ANY MUSLIM WHOSE FRIENDS WITH A HINDU AND HAS NEVER TAUGHT THEM ISLAM WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS!!!"

once again - lol

to me --- religion is like going to the supermarket and buying soap... some prefer Ivory, others prefer Irish Spring.... in the end, if it preaches love and peace, and washes your body, then its good soap, and that's all that matters

if I'm going to hell for thinking that, then so be it

"If I die before I wake... then at least in Heaven I can skate... because Heaven is a halfpipe!" - OPM

YEH I KNOW THAT, THE CHRISTIANS WILL BELIEVE THAT PROPHET MUHAMMED(PBUH) WAS THE LAST PROPHET,,, JEWS WILL TOO!!

HINDU IN FACT THEY ARE GRANTED HEAVEN ON THIS PLANET, BUT ANY MUSLIM WHOSE FRIENDS WITH A HINDU AND HAS NEVER TAUGHT THEM ISLAM WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS!!!
HINDU WHO COMMITT SHIIRK WELL THEY ARE GOING ON A HOT RIDE TO HELL, BUT MANY MUSLIMS WILL BE GOING TO HELL TOO ESPECIALLY WOMEN AS WOMEN LOVE BACK BITING, JEALOUSY AND ARE NOT THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE!!!

FROM EVERY 1000TH MUSLIM, 999 IS GOING TO HELL AND ONLY 1 TO HEAVEN!!!

umm sorry to break it to you, but you're way off...the first condition of Islam is the shahada which includes declaring Muhammed s.a.w. as the last messenger.

This is mere basics, come on.

SILKYSWORD, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT ISLAM HAS MANY ENEMIES, WHAT ARE WE ALL SUPPOSE TO DO, KILL EVERYONE!!!

LET ALLAH JUDGE EVERYONE, AT THE END OF THE DAY A PERSON WHO BELEIVE IN ONE ALLAH, BELIEVES IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT IS KNOWN TO BE A MUSLIM!!!

CHRISTIANS WHO BELIEVE THAT ALLAH IS ONE AND BELIEVE IN DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL BE KNOWN AS MUSLIMS!!!

JEWS WHO BELIEVE IN ONE ALLAH AND THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL BE KNOWN AS MUSLIMS!!!

DO YOU KNOW, EVEN THE GEETA(HINDU BOOK) IT MENTIONS THAT GOD IS ONE AND HAS NO FORM, BUT ITS THE ILLETERATE HINDU PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP THE STATUES, ALTHOUGH THE GEETA EVEN FORBIDS IT!!

AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYONE OF US, IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR SINS, IS ANYONE DISRESPECTS OUR PROPHET OR HIS WIVES OR ANYONE ELSE THEN LET IT GO AND LET ALLAH PUNISH THEM, JUST PRAY THAT ALLAH PUTS AN UNDERSTANDING IN THEY HEARTS,
DOESN'T ISLAM NOT TEACH US TOLERENCE, PATIENTS???

IF SOMEONE DISRESPECTED OUR PROPHET, OUR PROPHET NEVER CHOPPED THEY HEADS OFF, HE SMILED, WALKED AWAY AND PRAYED FOR ALLAH TO GUIDE THAT PERSON!!

WHY ARE WE TRYING TO PLAY GOD HERE???

AS MUSLIMS WE ARE ALREADY HAVING IT TOUGH, BUT FIGHTING AMONGST EACH OTHER IS BREAKING OUR UNITY AND ALLOWS OTHERS TO GET INBETWEEN, DO YOU THINK ALLAH IS HAPPY WITH ANY OF US!!!

DO YOU KNOW NEARLY ALL OF US ARE DESTINED FOR HELL, FROM EVERY 1000TH PERSON, 999 ARE GOING TO HELL AND ONLY ONE TO HEAVEN!!!

DO YOU KNOW THAT IF 40% OF US MUSLIMS BECOME GOOD IN THIS WORLD AND FOLLOW ISLAM AND ALLAH'S GUIDENCE, ALL THE EARTHQUAKES, HURRICANES WILL STOP AND PLACES WHERE POVERTY HAS GROWN, ARE THE PLACES WHERE ALLAH WILL GRANT PLANTATION FOR FOOD!!!

EVERYONE OF SHOULD LOOK INTO OURSELFS AND IMPROVE OURSELVES THEN ALWAYS TRYING TO IMPROVE, CRITICISE OTHERS!!!!

LETS MOVE ON AND UNITE AS MUSLIMS AND DO WHAT MAKES ALLAH HAPPY!!!

SILKYSWORD, ALLAH ALLOWS SHIA AND SUNNI TO PRAY TOGETHER, SO IF YOU HAVE TO HUG ONE, THEN YOU HUG A SHIA BROTHER, AS A MOSQUE IS A PLACE WHERE EVEN AN ENEMIES HAVE TO BE MUSLIM BROTHERS!!!

oh yeah? i didn't know!

neither did our notorious enemies, the orientalists! u shia only claim to have dug up the dismal reality of islam (failed prophet, in his message, marriages, friendships, succession), WOW,........

meanwhile, the entire world knows islam is the most successful global movement. otherwise,...authors llike that guy who wrote 'the great 100' or whatever title it had...he wouldn't have chosen 'Muhammad' as the greatest one, you FOOL!!!!

akh, if only he knew that the shia exist with what they say about muhammad's message and those who surrounded him (and that he was even killed by them -like one scanned page from ur major books shows!), and if he believed that all muslim rulers were illegitimate islamically (thus undeserving of the label 'muslim ruler' ,...then he wouldn't include our prophet even in the list of 1000 great ones in history!!! lol

and hey, he wouldn't even have any room for the ali and hussein in ur books!

let's look at ali of ur books:

he stood and watched the following:

1) being stripped from his right as a ruler of muslims (history recorded NOT the littlest attempt by him to 'restore his right'!!!! strange that al-Karrar, al-Asad al-Ghalib wouldn't!!!!!)

2) his wife, the daughter of the prophet, being pushed behind the door by Omar.., causing her a miscarriage(!!!!), a broken rib, then her home (ali's) burned down!!!!!!!

3) when he finally ruled 25 years or so after the prophet's passing, ali restores NOT ...the land of Fadak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

4) he teaches NOT his son al-Hasan to stick to the succession office, so al-Hasan would give it up to Mu'awiyah AND you Shia ignore that fact!!! wow!! hmmmmmmm

this all comes down to one thing: the muhammad in ur books is no great man (and of course he's not our muhammad, the prophet, the most successful, greatest man ever in human history, dunya-wise and deen-wise!!), nor is the ali in ur books a 'karrar', an 'asad', or a 'ghalib'!!!! ur idiotic books state he was dragged with the rope around his neck to pay allegiance to abu bakr and omar!!!!!!!!!!!!!! loooooooooool do u have any shame??? do u have any brains??????? where's ali's bravery??????? he didn't resist at all???? what is wrong with u, idiots??????

and u'd even think we hold those narrations to be true AND we still would love such an abu bakr and omar who would do that to ali and ahlulbayt????

u don't know us!!!! that abu bakr and omar u hate...we also hate!!!! but that's if they were true!!!! but no, those abu bakrs and omars in ur books are myths, are lies of abu makhnaf the imposter in tabari's book of history, and his likes of the extreme saba'i shia rafidi majoos!!!

u won't wake up. u don't want to. u only want to believe the lies in ur heads about us. u wanna believe we hate ahlulbayt, that we loved mu'awiyah more than ali, that we dont care about hussein in karbala, that we 'celebrate' ashura (while u know we 'fast' during it, and u know that hussein was denied water in karbala!!! this is while YOU SHIA HOLD BANQUETS AND GIVE AWAY FOOD AND DRINKS IN ASHURA!!!!! -i got sent some during the last ashura by neighbouring shia businessfolks, looool!! i refused the food!!!)

and u claim u love ahlulbayt???? u make ali into this passive coward who doesn't protect his wife nor avenge her nor get her 'inheritence' (according to ur claims) after her passing and when he became the highest authority in the land,.....and u shamelessly claim u love him??? u r making his image so bad with the false narrations u spread!!!!

but true ali is brave, honest, knows his rightful position in the muslim ummah, isn't after this dunya so much to DIE WANTING to rule and hold this responsiblity --RESPONSIBILTY, NOT HONOR-!!!!!!

fools. FOOLS, FOOLS, FOOLS!!!!! that's all i can say.

wake up from your psychosis. you defame yourselves.

sadly, very ignorant of u to say.

i won't hug the shia ..and bring my chest close to his..which is full of hatred for the prophet's wives and companions and slander of them too!!!! wanna do that? go ahead, but u'll be accountable for that before Allah!!!!

what hugging, what unity???? u say this because u dont know what they think of our beloved sahabah and mothers / the prophet's wives!!!! only an ignorant sunni would say that!!!

no hugging or unity until they let go of their shirk (associating ahlulbayt in worship beside allah) and quit slandering and cursing the sahaabah, including abu bakr, omar, othman, mu'awiyah, aysha, hafsa, and stop that idiotic tafseer of the quran found in their books of tafseer, and drop that innovative pillar of their deen called 'imamate' (which, if u ignorant sunni didn't know, making it a pillar of their deen....and u not believing in it, that makes u a kafir in their eyes, like if u drop the salaah from the pillars of islam, u r kafir and u'r fought! ilke the apostates in the beginning of abu bakr's khilafah...they stopped paying zakaat so they were called 'apostates' in history, fought with swords, and ali himself led armies agains them under abu bakr's khilafah!!).

ok, hug those who curse abu bakr and omar and our mothers, unite with them, while inside themselves they still hold u as a 'lost soul' (OH, CUZ U DON'T RECOGNIZE OUR IMAAAAM, 'HAZRAT HAZRAT'), and when u do that...we sunnis will reject u.

we don't compromise islam jsut so we add some garbage (shia) to our yard (the islamic fold). we have enough sunnis around, a billion, many of whom are also ignorant and adopt stupid sufi practices and beliefs we need to rid them of! we don't need the despicable, detestable, insignificant 10% Shia (whether twelvers or fivers or seveners or druze or baha'is or nusayris). adding those few millions on our list of enemies won't harm us.

it harms us to ignore their danger and fitnah like u ignorant sunnis want!!! they harm us as a 'fifth column' u rested for within our body and didn't boycotto or cut or amputate from the body of islam that the body may continue to function well.

what good were shia in history? nothing. just causing skirmishes here and there, biggest of which were when the safavids paralyazed the advance of islam in europe at the hands of ottoman turks, and when they forced iran onto shi'ism. after so many persians added to the human islamic civilzation as sunnis in all realms of knowledge, they were reduced to 'zeros' when they became shia, they lost their minds, no longer were creative or could add anything to islam, save only 'paintings' of a mythical hussein, and stupid dogmas and innovated rituals that make them a laughingstock in the eyes of most humans!!!

we disown them. they are filth. they defame us. we take no pride in them calling themselves muslms. they are not. they are pseudo-muslims. muslim-claimers. they are like the sikhs who combined islam with hinduism, but in their case it was more than just hinduism, but also zoroastrianism, judaism, paganism, and christianity.

u ignorant laymens can go ahead and keep hugging till the dooms day, it won't change a thing, and won't stop us from unveiling falsehood and the ugliness shi'ism is.

Could not agree more. 100% right.