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where does your soul live?


There was a tv programme on last night, which I didn't watch. It was about an Egyptian baby who had a rare condition known as craniopagus parasiticus, which occurs when an embryo begins to split into identical twins but fails to complete the process. One of the conjoined twins fails to develop fully in the womb.

In this case, the baby had two heads - one of which the scientists said was parasitic and so they removed it - after having consulted the Mufti of Cairo who said that it was ok to do so. The head attached to the body baby survived.

The head they removed had a brain - and it was capable of smiling and emotion. But not surviving by itself because it didn't have a heart or anything else apart from the brain.

But because it had a brain, I would say that it was capable of feeling.

Where does the soul live? Is it in our brain? Our heart? Where?
 

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Login to find out (February 26, 2006 at 9:33pm)
If you want directions to where your soul is located, you can't go wrong by listening to this guy: www.bbc.co.uk

(You need Realyplayer, and an intricate understanding of the punjabi lingo to get anywhere.)
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 2:16pm)
I think! separating the twins must have been a very difficult choice for the parents. But I hope the Doctors made the right choice, in favor of the healthier head. So now to the question of the soul?! Isn't it life with a conscience, a rador to regulate feelings, an ability with which to cognize. Where does it come from and where does it go?! I am thinking on that one.mmmmmmmmmm
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 12:30pm)
i lost mine in a poker game with a friend....

hopefully she's keeping it in a safe place. but i haven't seen her for months so it's hard to tell.



I think a soul would be a whole is greater than sum of parts deal.

oh bugger i gotta go!
salam
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 11:02am)
...or are we discussing "soul" as in a "metaphysical" sense here? *:
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 11:01am)
My Soul left me at the end of 2003, wasn't returning my calls, then I realised, through a third party that My Soul changed phone numbers, so I got the new number, called my soul, to find out how are things, to catch up with My Soul. My soul is doing fine, without me in My Soul's life I think my soul is trying to tell me that it wants no part of me, without actually saying it straight out. I get the message...

...and I don't blame HER!
I made a mistake back then, and am now paying the price.
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 10:36am)
MC: have you not seen the film 21grams?? That will tell you the answers

Seriously though, I have no idea. There must be recycling at work in the Universe (that is if something as ephemeral as the concept of a soul even obeys the laws of physics) and the energy which was the life force is recycled into matter. And comes back in leaves, soil etc

Or alternatively, maybe that is what Heaven is - a place fizzing with energy through the collection of souls there?

I don't believe that consciousness is self-awareness. There's a separate word for that in the physical (yet totally subconscious sense): proprioception. But I don't know what consciousness is - the crackling of electricity being fired in between synapses at a physical level but more than that...?
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 9:17am)
I would say that our 'consciousness' is simply our self-awareness. It is simply a psychological concept which is percieved in the brain and hence is considered to 'lie' there.

As for our soul, I would suggest that it is the 'spark' or 'life force' which you also refer to as the 'essence of life'. As such it is really a type of energy, as opposed to a physical component of our bodies.

Take a body a second before death and a second after death. It will still weigh the same and even look the same. I would suggest to you that all that has changed is that the soul, or the 'life energy' is now absent.

Now, we know that energy can not be destroyed. So when a person dies, their soul can not 'die' too. The only possible conclusion is that it must go somewhere else.

Where does it go?
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 6:56am)
MC: I can understand that the second baby was killed in order that the 'whole' baby would be able to live. But it makes me feel v uncomfortable that it happened. It was a living thing killed for its twin's benefit. I'm not sure I think the killing was wrong but I don't think it was right - which is the reason for putting this JE up.

Having spoken to others about it, they seemed to take the 'killing' of the baby with equaninamity and just called it a 'parasite' - which to me, belittled the instrinsic humanity of the second 'head'.

Consciousness resides in the brain but is consciousness the same as the soul? I don't know. And if the soul is the 'essence of life' then it would reside in someone brain dead.

I know I'm not making much sense here but I'm thinking it through myself, which is why I'm a muddle.
 
Login to find out (February 24, 2006 at 3:39am)
Alright!! from where does the soul lie to...what is soul itself? For me soul is what serves as the medium between the body and the psyche, you loose the connection, you r dead. Brain dead is a state where your medium (soul) and body are working but ur brain part is dysfunctional. Paralysis is where the brain and the medium are present. A person dies when the contact between the two is gone for ever. And yes, it is one of the factors that distinguishes the animate frm the inanimate.
 
Login to find out (February 23, 2006 at 8:52am)
Sure you can say that the second baby was killed. However, what are the options?

If two babies are born conjoined and are unlikely to survive, is it only to seperate them so that they weaker one will die and the stronger one will survive?

We can all agree that the weaker baby was 'killed' but was that 'killing' wrong?

As for the soul lying in the brain, I am not sure that that's the case. A person could be brain dead. Does that mean they don't have a soul? If they do have a soul, it would suggest that the soul does not need a living brain to exist.
 
Login to find out (February 23, 2006 at 6:24am)
Jazz: what is a soul? How would you describe it? To me, it is what makes us animate as opposed to inanimate. The 'thing' that is life itself
 
Login to find out (February 23, 2006 at 6:23am)
MC: interesting and I hadn't considered that .

Having thought about it some more, I realise that I wasn't clear at all. Some may say taht I have moved the goal posts of the discussion but I think it's clarification.

The brain gives us consciousness and feeling. Therefore, destroying this other 'head' was akin to killing someone - because it is the brain that makes us unique and gives us our senses. Our brain that creates the outside world for us and is a link to it. Is there even a world outside that which our brain creates?
 
Login to find out (February 22, 2006 at 12:47pm)
mchow... interesting! hmm...

as humans before birth, we are in a continual state of development. I think the soul does not "reside" anywhere, but rather is the philosophical principle that guides the process of our development - so it is impossible to "cut off" a soul
 
Login to find out (February 22, 2006 at 11:25am)
I agree with Smartgirl6
 
Login to find out (February 22, 2006 at 3:43am)
The Soul as per my understanding of it is Ethereal, something which pervades in every but of our body, yet cant be seen or touched. Just as air fills in the room and you cant point out its exact location, similarly you cant point out where ur soul lies. As far as the twin heads are concerned, it obviously was one body, the soul didnt get cut it remains with the part that survived. Reminds me of beautiful lines by Emerson..."If the red slayer thinks he slays, or if the slain thinks that he is slain, they know not the sublte ways I keep, and pass, and turn."

And those who believe that the concept of soul is ridiculous please read this:

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Login to find out (February 21, 2006 at 4:57pm)
Perhaps the soul exist in every part of every living thing?

If you cut off an arm of a starfish, not only with the starfish grow a new arm, but the arm will grow a new starfish.

This would suggest that, like the baby, the soul does not reside in just one part of a living being.