who are the real sahaba...???
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We all keep talking about Sahaba and their virtues and that we should respect them.But the real problem here between Sunni's and Shia's the defination of Sahaba.Sunni's are of view that all the people who did see Prophet(P.B.U.H) once, may that be for an instant should be called Sahabi and should be respeted.But Shia's believe that sahaba or companions are those who not only did see Prophet(P.B.U.H) but also obey him in every aspect of their life.You all know that after death of Prophet (P.B.U.H) some mulims got "murtad" ,so can we admit them as "sahaba" keeping in mind the sunni's defination of sahaba.
There is always a question for sunni's that rise in our mind when we search the islamic history.What do they think about the battle of Siffain which was fought between Hazrat Ali (A.S) and Muawiyah.Here are some hadiths about value of Hazrat Ali(A.S) and real face of Muawiya:
The Messenger of Allah said:
"Whoever reviles/curses Ali, has reviled/cursed me"
Sunni reference:
- al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p121, who mentioned this tradition is Authentic.
- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v6, p323
- Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Hanbal, v2, p594, Tradition #1011
- Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p130
- Mishkat al-Masabih, English version, Tradition #6092
- Tarikh al-Khulafa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p173
Here is another Hadith:
"O Ali! Soon a rebellious group will fight against you, you will be on the truth. Whoever does not support you on that day will not be from us"
for the scanned page of this Hadith click here www.answering-ansar.org
We read in al Istiab Volume 3 page 229 that
"Abdur Rahman Ibn Abdi narrates that eight hundred Sahaba who pledged allegiance at Ridwan fought alongside 'Ali at Sifeen".
for the scanned page of this Hadith click here www.answering-ansar.org
Muawiyah not only fought Imam Ali, he cursed Imam Ali as well. Furthermore, he did force/make everybody to curse Ali (AS). To prove it, we begin with Sahih Muslim:
Narrated Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqas:
Muawiyah, the son of Abu Sufyan, give order to Sa'd, and told him:"What prevents you that you are refraining from cursing Abu Turab(nickname of Ali)?" Sa'd replied: "Don't you remember that the Prophet said three things about (the virtue of) Ali? So I will never curse Ali."
Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of Virtues of Companions, Section of Virtues of Ali, Arabic, v4, p1871, Tradition #32.
Cursing Imam Ali (AS) was an order from the beginning of Muawiyah's reign for 65 years. He was Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz (may Allah be easy with him) who canceled this order after more than half a century. Some historians even believe that the Umayyah descendants themselves killed (poisoned) Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz, because he changed their Sunnah, one of which was cursing Ali.
One of the ugliest innovations that started during the reign of Muawiyah was that Muawiyah himself, and through his order to his Governors, they used to insult Imam Ali (AS) during the Sermons in the Mosques. This was even done on the pulpit of the mosque of the Prophet in Medina in front of the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and his Progeny), so that even the dearest Companions of the Prophet (PBUH& HF), and Imam Ali (AS), his family and his near relatives used to hear these swears with their ears.
Sunni references :
- History of al-Tabari, v4, p188
- History of Ibn Kathir, v3, p234; v4, p154
- al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah, v8, p259; v9, p80
On insulting Ali Ibn Abi Talib and cursing him during the Umayah period starting in Muawiyah's reign, it is reported that:
"Ali Ibn Abi Talib (ra) was cursed on the pulpits (manabir) of the east and west...", during the time of Muawiyah.
Sunni reference: Mu'jam al-Buldan, al-Hamawi, v5, p3
MUAWIYAH KILLING THE BELOVED SAHABA HAZRAT AMMAR YASIR
"Allah's messenger (PBUH) said to Ammar: "A group of rebels would kill you."
- Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, Tradition #6968
Also:
Umm Salama narrated that Allah's messenger (may peace be upon him) said: "A band of rebels would kill Ammar."
- Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, Tradition #6970
Do you know that Ammar, the great companion of the Prophet was martyred in the battle of Siffin by Muawiyah soldiers, at the age of ninety-three? Is it clear, now, that The gang of Muawiyah were rebels? Do you know what is the sentence of rebels (Taghee) mentioned in Quran?
It is interesting to see that the English translator of Sahih Muslim (Abdul Hamid Siddiqui) has written in the footnote of the above traditions that:
This narration is clearly indicative of the fact that in the conflict
between Hadrat Ali and his opponents, Hadrat Ali was on the right as
Ammar Ibn Yasir was killed in the Battle of Siffin fighting in the
camp of Hadrat Ali. (Footnote of Sahih Muslim, English version, v4,
p1508).
Now, observing all the above mentioned hadith what would do you think of Muawiyah and many so called sahaba's.Which defination of Sahaba is correct, is that of sunni's who respect people like muawiyah calling them sahaba aur Shia's. Now it is up to you...!!!!
We all keep talking about Sahaba and their virtues and that we should respect them.But the real problem here between Sunni's and Shia's the defination of Sahaba.Sunni's are of view that all the people who did see Prophet(P.B.U.H) once, may that be for an instant should be called Sahabi and should be respeted.But Shia's believe that sahaba or companions are those who not only did see Prophet(P.B.U.H) but also obey him in every aspect of their life.You all know that after death of Prophet (P.B.U.H) some mulims got "murtad" ,so can we admit them as "sahaba" keeping in mind the sunni's defination of sahaba.
There is always a question for sunni's that rise in our mind when we search the islamic history.What do they think about the battle of Siffain which was fought between Hazrat Ali (A.S) and Muawiyah.Here are some hadiths about value of Hazrat Ali(A.S) and real face of Muawiya:
The Messenger of Allah said:
"Whoever reviles/curses Ali, has reviled/cursed me"
Sunni reference:
- al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p121, who mentioned this tradition is Authentic.
- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v6, p323
- Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Hanbal, v2, p594, Tradition #1011
- Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p130
- Mishkat al-Masabih, English version, Tradition #6092
- Tarikh al-Khulafa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p173
Here is another Hadith:
"O Ali! Soon a rebellious group will fight against you, you will be on the truth. Whoever does not support you on that day will not be from us"
for the scanned page of this Hadith click here www.answering-ansar.org
We read in al Istiab Volume 3 page 229 that
"Abdur Rahman Ibn Abdi narrates that eight hundred Sahaba who pledged allegiance at Ridwan fought alongside 'Ali at Sifeen".
for the scanned page of this Hadith click here www.answering-ansar.org
Muawiyah not only fought Imam Ali, he cursed Imam Ali as well. Furthermore, he did force/make everybody to curse Ali (AS). To prove it, we begin with Sahih Muslim:
Narrated Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqas:
Muawiyah, the son of Abu Sufyan, give order to Sa'd, and told him:"What prevents you that you are refraining from cursing Abu Turab(nickname of Ali)?" Sa'd replied: "Don't you remember that the Prophet said three things about (the virtue of) Ali? So I will never curse Ali."
Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of Virtues of Companions, Section of Virtues of Ali, Arabic, v4, p1871, Tradition #32.
Cursing Imam Ali (AS) was an order from the beginning of Muawiyah's reign for 65 years. He was Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz (may Allah be easy with him) who canceled this order after more than half a century. Some historians even believe that the Umayyah descendants themselves killed (poisoned) Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz, because he changed their Sunnah, one of which was cursing Ali.
One of the ugliest innovations that started during the reign of Muawiyah was that Muawiyah himself, and through his order to his Governors, they used to insult Imam Ali (AS) during the Sermons in the Mosques. This was even done on the pulpit of the mosque of the Prophet in Medina in front of the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and his Progeny), so that even the dearest Companions of the Prophet (PBUH& HF), and Imam Ali (AS), his family and his near relatives used to hear these swears with their ears.
Sunni references :
- History of al-Tabari, v4, p188
- History of Ibn Kathir, v3, p234; v4, p154
- al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah, v8, p259; v9, p80
On insulting Ali Ibn Abi Talib and cursing him during the Umayah period starting in Muawiyah's reign, it is reported that:
"Ali Ibn Abi Talib (ra) was cursed on the pulpits (manabir) of the east and west...", during the time of Muawiyah.
Sunni reference: Mu'jam al-Buldan, al-Hamawi, v5, p3
MUAWIYAH KILLING THE BELOVED SAHABA HAZRAT AMMAR YASIR
"Allah's messenger (PBUH) said to Ammar: "A group of rebels would kill you."
- Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, Tradition #6968
Also:
Umm Salama narrated that Allah's messenger (may peace be upon him) said: "A band of rebels would kill Ammar."
- Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, Tradition #6970
Do you know that Ammar, the great companion of the Prophet was martyred in the battle of Siffin by Muawiyah soldiers, at the age of ninety-three? Is it clear, now, that The gang of Muawiyah were rebels? Do you know what is the sentence of rebels (Taghee) mentioned in Quran?
It is interesting to see that the English translator of Sahih Muslim (Abdul Hamid Siddiqui) has written in the footnote of the above traditions that:
This narration is clearly indicative of the fact that in the conflict
between Hadrat Ali and his opponents, Hadrat Ali was on the right as
Ammar Ibn Yasir was killed in the Battle of Siffin fighting in the
camp of Hadrat Ali. (Footnote of Sahih Muslim, English version, v4,
p1508).
Now, observing all the above mentioned hadith what would do you think of Muawiyah and many so called sahaba's.Which defination of Sahaba is correct, is that of sunni's who respect people like muawiyah calling them sahaba aur Shia's. Now it is up to you...!!!!


