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Would you go back?




For the village members who know Egypt pretty well, and might have even lived there before...if there is an opportunity to return to Egypt...would you go back?

What are the pros and cons to consider?

Would it be a nightmare as many think...or is it doeable?

What would it take to make a smooth transition back after being away for so long?

I know that 99.9999 % of the village members grew up in the States or it seems like...but if anyone has a thought about this issue, I'd love to hear it insha'Allah as it would be most helpful :)

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Login to find out (October 13, 2005 at 11:12pm)
actually i was seriously considering something like that, to live in work in egypt, rappers always say they "want to give back to the community" now that never happens lol, but the idea itself is a good one, why not take our education and put it to use over there? teach people over there something called "team work" because i belive it is seriously lacking, why not take our individual skills and put them to use over there? make life easier for everyone, i'm tired of seeing 5 or 6 people having 80% of egypts wealth, and the rest goes to about the 70 million that alot are left to starve, or how about the 30% unemployment rate? or the bribes that you can get no where without? maybe i'm talking too big for people to take me seriously, but i think it's time we start cleaning up the mess that's going on over there, it has got to start sometime, alot of poeple think that since you have alot of money, your automatically happy with your life, i can't take my money to the grave, alot of people forget that, and i can't give a rashwa to get me into heaven lol, but in the end i think i'd want to go back, make some things happen, change someones life, because someone taught them something new to them, educate, and so on, i do think all this is possible, and it's definitly no easy road, cuz if it was easy, everyone would have done it, but i think with some strong will, hard work, and allah, you might have something going, and the transition just might be easier :D
 
Login to find out (October 13, 2005 at 5:22pm)
Assalamu Alaikum Hoda :) Thank you for your feedback. I'm not planning on going anywhere in the time being given various responsibilities. I'll still email you however insha'Allah about ways to contact each other :)
 
Login to find out (October 13, 2005 at 4:17am)
Dear Hzma,
Thank you for your point of view..it makes sense of course...because with the difficulties in Egypt, "money talks" and helps save the day. Also, whenever I bring the subject up, everyone says that to be able to live in Egypt again, you have to be well-to-do. Thus,...there is definitely truth to this. HOWEVER...I just think that it's very very very very sad that our country has come down to this. That materialism is the first thought that we worry about whenever the thought of going back comes up, even with my own family.

Maybe this is not realistic,...but what if one can't live in that level....isn't it enough to consider the values that only come from living in Egypt.....such as sensing, and feeling, and absorbing the subtleties of humanity and family...feeling alive and connected to others?

I know life is very tough there without money...I saw that for myself...but rizq is in Allah's hand...I personally know of some people here in the States and are having a hard time financially. How about Uncle Sam's chunk of taxes? How about the atrocious things that we hear some community members fall into as a result of being mixed up by growing up here. For the sake of anonymity, I won't mention some real, heart-breaking stories...one I never would have imagined.

I just think that both countries have their share of pros and cons and it's a matter of where our priorities lie. Maybe I'm just more sentimental when it comes to Egypt that it makes me overlook the very real and negative aspects of living in it...I don't know...

Thank you for following this long post :)
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 4:57pm)
yea newcairo, i hate that too that i have to wait around for people to take me places too. plus, it's the basic stuff sometimes, like crossing the street. lol...
everyone there makes me feel like i can't cross the street by myself cuz "i'm not used to it"...it's like i've become 4 again...and as much as it sucks to aadmit, but egypt isn't exactly the cleanest place too, like masrawaya said about "nezam" too
and it's weird cuz the basic things u don't think about like easier customer service, easier/cheaper accessories in our every day lives would be so much harder to have in egypt.

i really wish i could find a nice international job between here and there....that would be cool.
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 10:12am)
I think it is doable (especially if you have money) but there are many small things that might get to you in the long run, like traffic, lack of "nezam", etc...
 
Login to find out (September 30, 2005 at 12:00am)
Yea, guess so. I mean, i go every summer, but that's like 1-2 months...The longest time I've stayed was 6 months....when I took a semester off to take some classes at Cairo University and just hang around in Egypt. But, everything is so great there....and it's not impossible, I think Egypt has high technologies and is developing so fast in other things. it's like u can't not find anything in egypt anymore. but yet, it's like my cousin told me once....stay over there, we can't find jobs here us egyptian males, so you stay there.
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 2:00am)
i guess u need to visit egypt stay there for a period of time to decide ur self. the one thing that bothers me there is i have to depend on someone everytime i want to go somewhere.
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 1:41am)
plus, i couldn't find a job in egypt probably....that's the only con thing i think. but i think life is so much sweeter in egypt...el ahl w el 7aya w el amaken. w el naaaaas. it's so much easier to be egyptian and muslim in egypt....but then again, there's no jobs....
and it's weird cuz my family always calls me crazy for feelin that way when i say i want to go back, sigh...
 
Login to find out (September 29, 2005 at 1:39am)
actually, i'm debating with this issue myself. sa7, el 7aya fey misr fe3lan leha ta3m tany. i am graduating soon with marketing and business, so insha'Allah work here would be nice, but yet it's so hard cuz financial stability overcomes in this world over emotional stability....like when i'm in misr. yaaaaaaa raby, i guess back up is always good for here yea, and with hopes that Allah yewafa2na w yedena business fey misr or something so we can stay in our beloved country :)
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 9:34pm)
in my visit to egypt ( i know it's short time) but i don't really see it a problem to live in egypt. u just need to have a good business ensha allah that help u out in life, but in the same time don't leave USA forever. let USA be a backup . wa allaho el mowafek
 
Login to find out (September 17, 2005 at 4:14am)
assalamu alaikum,
Thank you for bringing this topic to my attention. I enjoyed reading the different responses. It's hard to decide, but I have come to the conclusion that Allah will lead us to the place where He katab 3alena to be in for wise reasons that Allah knows. I want to be realistic and acknowledge the problems that exist in Egypt, nonetheless, I can't help but agree with the comment that said:

"ALLAH is the one who provides the opportunity, not the IS government, not the greater freedom in this country, but ALLAH is the one who provides the opportunity. I have seen people in Egyt very succesful in bringing the Ummah together and helping people think independantly. My point is that we should stop thinking of the US as the country that we are safe in and that this is the only place where we can have a decent lifestyle."

In the end..Egypt or America or el marikh :), el mohem to try to live in a way that would please Allah insha'Allah..

Thank you again...
 
Login to find out (September 13, 2005 at 12:59pm)
I maight think of going back, el 7ayah fee masr leehaa ta3m tani. i just came back from egypt 2 months ago (a visit). i have wrote a JE about this and has many comments, look up for it in this Village. my Je called"
"Will you spend your life in Egypt or america?"