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PAF vs IAF

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Pakistan Air Force vs Israeli Air Force

In a 2002 CNN interview, former US ambassador to Pakistan, called PAF pilots some of the best in the world, as good as the IAF pilots, may be even better. Now you know why. (H)

1967 Arab-Israeli 'Six-Day' War

RJAF and PAF were flying under a joint command. Flt. Lt. Saiful Azam became the only pilot from the Arab side to have shot down 3 IDF/AF aircraft within 72 hours and also the only pilot to have shot down 3 different aircraft types of the IDF/AF. He was, subsequently, decorated by Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan.

Note: Israel in a surprise pre-emptive attack destroyed virtually all of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground, with few Israeli casualties. Over 300 Egyptian aircraft were destroyed and 100 Egyptian pilots were killed, although the number of aircraft actually lost by the Egyptians is disputed. Among the Egyptian planes lost were all 30 Tu-16 bombers, as well as 27 out of 40 Il-28 bombers, 12 Su-7 fighter-bombers, over 90 MiG-21s, 20 MiG-19s, 25 MiG-17 fighters and around 32 assorted transport planes and helicopters. The Israelis lost 19 planes, mostly operational losses (mechanical failure, accidents, etc). The attack guaranteed Israeli air superiority for the rest of the war.

1973 Arab-Israeli 'Yom Kippur' War or Ramadan War or October War

During the war 16 PAF pilots volunteered to go to the Middle East in order to support Egypt and Syria but by the time they arrived, Egypt had already been pushed into a ceasefire. Syria remained in a state of war against Israel.

On 23 October 1973, PAF pilot Flt. Lt. M. Hatif on deputation to Egyptian Air Force (EAF) was flying a EAF MiG-21 in a defensive combat air patrol (CAP) over Egypt when he was vectored towards an intruding Israeli Air Force (IDF/AF) F-4 Phantom. In the ensuing dogfight, Flt. Lt. M. Hatif shot down the Israeli Phantom.

Eight (8) PAF pilots started flying out of Syrian Airbases; they formed the A-flight of 67 Squadron at Dumayr Airbase. The Pakistani pilots flew Syrian MiG-21 aircraft conducting CAP missions for the Syrians.

On 26 April 1974, PAF pilot Flt. Lt. Sattar Alvi on deputation to No. 67 Squadron, Syrian Air Force (SAF) was flying a SAF MiG-21FL Fishbed (Serial No. 1863) out of Dumayr Air Base, Syria in a two-ship formation with a fellow PAF pilot and the Flight Leader, Sqn. Ldr. Arif Manzoor. The Ground Controller, also a PAF officer, Sqn. Ldr. Salim Metla, vectored the two PAF pilots to a formation of 2 Israeli Air Force Mirage IIICJs and 2 F-4 Phantoms that had intruded into Syrian airspace over the Golan Heights. In the engagement that took place at 1532 hours, Flt. Lt. Sattar Alvi shot down an Israeli Mirage IIICJ using his MiG-21's R(K)-13 Air-to-Air Missile. The pilot of the downed Israeli Mirage was Capt. M. Lutz of No. 5 Air Wing, who ejected. The remaining Israeli fighters aborted the mission. The 2 IAF Mirage IIICJs were from Hatzor AFB and the 2 IAF F-4 Phantoms were from No. 1 Air Wing, Ramat David AFB, Israel.

Flt. Lt. A. Sattar Alvi became the first Pakistani pilot, during the Yom Kippur War, to shoot down an Israeli Mirage in air combat.He was honored by the Syrian government. Other aerial encounters involved Israeli F-4 Phantoms; Pakistan Air Force did not lose a single pilot or aircraft during this war.
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P.S.: Personally I think we should avoid any direct military confrontation with Israel because right now we got enough problems of our own. But it nice to shoot down a few beef eaters than vegetarians for a change! ;)

 
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Aliya06 (May 17, 2010 at 12:41am)
One correction to yoru JE: The Pakistani pilots "volunteered" as an official statement. However, they were actually deployed by the Government of Pkaistan in a Muslim-Zionist conflict.

One then Pakistani and later Bengali pilot holds the world record of wearing uniforms of 4 Air Forces in the world.

Flt Lt Hatif mentioned above later became an Air Vice Marshall (equivalent to Lt. General) in the PAF. The PAF Chief of 1965 Air Masrhal Nur Khan was feared by the Isreali chief whose on record to say he was glad he wasnt up against Nur Khan.

However, having said that the PAF of today is a different force and I am not too sure if we are as good today.
 
MysterAsif (May 16, 2010 at 10:21pm)
I agree, Pakistan needs to take care of her Northern part first, Israel will bring itself to disintegration if they don't stop religious fascism toward Arabs, they don't need any pressure from the outside.

I'm an Urdu speaker too btw, and ^&*()(* to all the Urdu speaking haters and vice versa.